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« Reply #275 on: October 22, 2012, 09:42:23 PM »

I really didn't notice an Obama victory in this debate, not even a narrow one like in the 2nd...I think it was a tie at best, and honestly a narrow Romney victory. But, again, I've been a rather poor judge of what others will think of these debates.

It was impossible to miss how out of his element Obama was tonight and how he seemed to have very little knowledge of and specific policy for, foreign policy, unless you are a hack or exist in a vegetative state.

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Absolutely. A pure and simple tie.
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« Reply #276 on: October 22, 2012, 09:44:05 PM »

lol, mitt romney is an idiot on foreign policy and was spanked by the President accordingly.
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« Reply #277 on: October 22, 2012, 09:50:35 PM »

YouTube's got a guy on calling it a narrow Romney victory...nobody's called it for Obama so far. But, yeah, in response to Marokai, both candidates were trying to change the topic on economics, both attacked the other, both discussed foreign policy rather vaguely. Because expectations were lower for Romney, my own personal, very possibly incorrect, prediction is that Romney narrowly won. But I do realize the forum does not agree with me.
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« Reply #278 on: October 22, 2012, 09:55:33 PM »

CBS News ‏@CBSNews

BREAKING: CBS NEWS INSTANT POLL Who won the #Debate? OBAMA: 53%; ROMNEY: 23%, TIE: 24% (Margin of Error: 4%; Sample Size: 521)
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« Reply #279 on: October 22, 2012, 10:00:30 PM »

CBS News ‏@CBSNews

BREAKING: CBS NEWS INSTANT POLL Who won the #Debate? OBAMA: 53%; ROMNEY: 23%, TIE: 24% (Margin of Error: 4%; Sample Size: 521)

Holy crap, that's bigger than the margin that Romney got in the first debate in this poll!

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« Reply #280 on: October 22, 2012, 10:01:13 PM »

CBS News ‏@CBSNews

BREAKING: CBS NEWS INSTANT POLL Who won the #Debate? OBAMA: 53%; ROMNEY: 23%, TIE: 24% (Margin of Error: 4%; Sample Size: 521)

Holy crap.  I think that's better than Romney's 1st debate margin of victory in that poll.
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« Reply #281 on: October 22, 2012, 10:02:01 PM »

CBS News ‏@CBSNews

BREAKING: CBS NEWS INSTANT POLL Who won the #Debate? OBAMA: 53%; ROMNEY: 23%, TIE: 24% (Margin of Error: 4%; Sample Size: 521)

Hahaha ouch!!
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« Reply #282 on: October 22, 2012, 10:03:16 PM »

CBS News ‏@CBSNews

BREAKING: CBS NEWS INSTANT POLL Who won the #Debate? OBAMA: 53%; ROMNEY: 23%, TIE: 24% (Margin of Error: 4%; Sample Size: 521)

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« Reply #283 on: October 22, 2012, 10:05:54 PM »

Obama won on points.  It will not stop the momentum.  Romney looked reasonable.

If it just military, I'd probably vote for Obama.
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« Reply #284 on: October 22, 2012, 10:08:13 PM »

Obama won on points.  It will not stop the momentum.  Romney looked reasonable.

If it just military, I'd probably vote for Obama.

I understand you are a partisan, but look at the facts on the ground here.  He won the CBS poll by a bigger margin that Romney did back on October 3rd.  When Romney won that big, it was a game changer.
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« Reply #285 on: October 22, 2012, 10:12:26 PM »

Obama won on points.  It will not stop the momentum.  Romney looked reasonable.

If it just military, I'd probably vote for Obama.

I understand you are a partisan, but look at the facts on the ground here.  He won the CBS poll by a bigger margin that Romney did back on October 3rd.  When Romney won that big, it was a game changer.

The first debate was a much bigger debate on more important topics. I think it was more of game changer because it changed how people perceived Romney. I don't think this debate will change much of anything.
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« Reply #286 on: October 22, 2012, 10:13:22 PM »

Carville is getting fed up with CNN being way too bi-partisan and rightly so.
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« Reply #287 on: October 22, 2012, 10:14:55 PM »

Even Ari Flesicher admitted that Obama won this one.

James Carville is calling it a complete blowout win for Obama.
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« Reply #288 on: October 22, 2012, 10:15:05 PM »

Obama won on points.  It will not stop the momentum.  Romney looked reasonable.

If it just military, I'd probably vote for Obama.

I understand you are a partisan, but look at the facts on the ground here.  He won the CBS poll by a bigger margin that Romney did back on October 3rd.  When Romney won that big, it was a game changer.

Look at why it was a game changer: it significantly altered people's previously held views of Romney (which were largely a product of negative ads). now if tonight showed a fundamentally different side of either candidate that we haven't seen before, then it would be a "game changer". But as both performed relative to people's expectations (almost everyone would expect a sitting prez to be more knowledgable on fp) there is no game changing moment.
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« Reply #289 on: October 22, 2012, 10:16:11 PM »

CNN Poll:

Who won the debate?

Obama: 48%
Romney: 40%

Obama did:
Better: 59%
Worse: 15%
Same: 23%

Romney did:
Better: 44%
Worse: 26%
Same: 26%
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« Reply #290 on: October 22, 2012, 10:16:11 PM »

Cnn 48-40 to the prez
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« Reply #291 on: October 22, 2012, 10:17:20 PM »

Game Changer folks. Game Changer.
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« Reply #292 on: October 22, 2012, 10:18:02 PM »

Where's the evidence that republicans watch the debate more CNN?
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« Reply #293 on: October 22, 2012, 10:22:45 PM »

Where's the evidence that republicans watch the debate more CNN?

They said the sample was especially R-friendly tonight on the air. Still waiting to see how Republican...
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« Reply #294 on: October 22, 2012, 10:24:30 PM »

CNN Poll:

Can Obama handle the job as Commander-in-Chief?
Yes: 63%
No: 36%

Can Romney handle the job as Commander-in-Chief?
Yes: 60%
No: 38%
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« Reply #295 on: October 22, 2012, 10:24:48 PM »

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« Reply #296 on: October 22, 2012, 10:28:23 PM »

CNN Poll:

Can Obama handle the job as Commander-in-Chief?
Yes: 63%
No: 36%

Can Romney handle the job as Commander-in-Chief?
Yes: 60%
No: 38%
If those numbers are from a heavy R sample, those are deadly. More think Obama can handle being C-in-C than Romney? That's incredible.
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« Reply #297 on: October 22, 2012, 10:33:35 PM »

CNN Poll:

Who seemed stronger?
Obama: 51%
Romney: 46%

Who was more likeable?
Obama: 48%
Romney: 47%

Who spent more time attacking his opponent?
Obama: 68%
Romney: 21%
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« Reply #298 on: October 22, 2012, 10:36:44 PM »

Who spent more time attacking his opponent?
Obama: 68%
Romney: 21%

Well, it is a debate, and Romney does take two stances on most issues.  So when people try and play this off like a bad think, it's absurd.
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« Reply #299 on: October 22, 2012, 10:41:37 PM »

Who spent more time attacking his opponent?
Obama: 68%
Romney: 21%

Well, it is a debate, and Romney does take two stances on most issues.  So when people try and play this off like a bad think, it's absurd.

Of course, the poll doesn't ask whether voters think it's good or bad.  I'm inclined to agree with what the majority of voters said on this, though.
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