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« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2012, 09:40:19 PM »

In all fairness to Sarah Palin, she's probably just too dumb and ignorant to realize the racial aspects of that phrase.
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« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2012, 10:31:32 PM »

Racism is big business in America.

All you have to do is say "Welfare queens driving Cadillacs" and you too can have your own right wing radio talk show.

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« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2012, 06:06:55 AM »

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Wow, does it make you angry when they aren't cooking for you, and actually express an opinion? 

So ironic coming from a social "conservative".

Unlike some, I don't believe that being a woman is a disease.
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« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2012, 08:04:43 AM »

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Wow, does it make you angry when they aren't cooking for you, and actually express an opinion? 

So ironic coming from a social "conservative".

Unlike some, I don't believe that being a woman is a disease.

Being Sarah Palin is a disease though.
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« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2012, 10:29:09 AM »

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Wow, does it make you angry when they aren't cooking for you, and actually express an opinion? 

So ironic coming from a social "conservative".

Unlike some, I don't believe that being a woman is a disease.

Unlike some, you have the reading comprehension of a third-grader. At best.
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« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2012, 12:06:40 PM »

The term "shuck and jive" has been non racial for 40 to 50 years, but when Sarah Palin uses it... O' boy we're back in the 1850's all of a sudden. 

Weird how "jive talker" is a perfect description of Obama, but this phrase is horribly off key.     
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« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2012, 12:20:57 PM »

95% of the Republican Party is at least mildly racist.

I'd like to see a source for that.

In my experience, 95% of democrats are racist.  Don't forget the democratic base is made up of trade unionists (I know union members--100% racist) and blacks, the majority of whom couldn't concieve of voting for a white against a black.
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« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2012, 12:48:17 PM »

Bro, we can't let Sarah Palin win! Forward(TM) with BrObama! Forward(TM) with Simpson-Bowles!  Most pwogwessive pwesident ever!!! Wants bros to marry each other!

Good Lord you're insufferable.

What's insufferable is the usual women-bashing and/or vapid memes being trotted out, the opportunity cost of which is discussing the austerity BrObama will inflict during his second imperial term. Had them figured out five years ago: Just as right-wing on punishing the poorest 99+% supposedly to balance a meaningless accounting identity (which isn't the intention anyway, just to redistribute wealth upward) but deriving their libewal/pwogwessive cred by assuming "culturally" transgressive affectations. Romney would be an all-too-obvious villain for handing Social Security to the banksters, droning civilians into red mist, normalizing/expanding/usurping executive power, retroactively legalizing foreclosure fraud, normalizing (8% nominal / 20% real DISemployment), and approving reckless resource extractions for his bankster bros to speculate on. Better to pick someone who can hide behind identity "politics." And they really hate ambitious women ...

If anyone has any doubt about Obie's second term policy objectives and/or cares about the implementation of austerity, all they need to do is google his Hamilton Project speech from 2006. The guy was handpicked to privatize* SS/Medicare under the pretext of "fiscal prudence" - and his bros [paper towel, Jon Stewart?] are completely in favor of all the imperialism and austerity.

* Privatize, not cut, because like Shrub's/Pinochet's/Ray-gun's approach, it's about "shock-and-awe" responses in the face of ["]crisis["] - "fiscal cliff" included.
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« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2012, 12:51:08 PM »

Reminder that, despite its protests to the contrary, she was the Republican Party's 2008 Vice Presidential nominee.

MORE LIBERALS SPREADING  LIES!!!!!1
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« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2012, 01:10:56 PM »

95% of the Republican Party is at least mildly racist.

I'd like to see a source for that.

In my experience, 95% of democrats are racist.  Don't forget the democratic base is made up of trade unionists (I know union members--100% racist) and blacks, the majority of whom couldn't concieve of voting for a white against a black.
http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006/pages/results/states/MD/S/01/epolls.0.html
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« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2012, 01:18:40 PM »

95% of the Republican Party is at least mildly racist.

I'd like to see a source for that.

In my experience, 95% of democrats are racist.  Don't forget the democratic base is made up of trade unionists (I know union members--100% racist) and blacks, the majority of whom couldn't concieve of voting for a white against a black.
http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006/pages/results/states/MD/S/01/epolls.0.html


This data tells me blacks are 500% more likely to vote Rethug when said Rethug is black.  More generally, Libewals are more vastly more likely to vote for a bankster-loving warmonger as long as said bankster-loving warmonger has a D behind their name, and doubly that if they're non-white.
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« Reply #36 on: October 25, 2012, 02:11:27 PM »

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He's assuming that 95 percent of Republicans are white, and using Opebo's maxim, "white people are 100 percent racist."
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« Reply #37 on: October 25, 2012, 02:20:40 PM »

It's called observing Republican rhetoric and how they've reacted to the first black president in a histrionic and often racist way. It's not just about his policies at all! Remember, he's a lazy, drug dealing, terrorist sympathizing, Muslim socialist who wants to enslave whites and probably isn't a real American.

And "shuck and jive" is just another example of the blatant racism that Republicans pretend is nothing when people call it out. It is still a racial term to most people, Sarah Palin knows it, and she loves when people defend her by saying it isn't racist because it gives cover to the fact that she was intentionally using coded language to embolden the actual racists who follow her. And that's a fact, jack. Smiley
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« Reply #38 on: October 25, 2012, 02:29:28 PM »

Libewals will use any distraction - particularly "cultural" "issues" or identity "politics" - to distract from their candidate's demonstrated warmongering and austerity implementation.  Obama's put Social Security under the guillotine in his 2006 speech to the Hamilton Project.  Obama's overseen the murder of more civilians in less than four years at the hands of drones in Af-Pak than during Shrub.  It's OK, though, so long as the emperor isn't a wannabe cowboy.  Even by their own metrics, Obie signed an executive order restricting funds for abortion.  Where's the libewal outrage?  As someone who worked on a Democratic presidential campaign in 2008, I am completely aware that Obie's base is as right-wing on empirical policy outcomes as any soi dissant conservative.
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« Reply #39 on: October 25, 2012, 03:09:00 PM »
« Edited: October 25, 2012, 03:14:47 PM by Senator-elect Oakvale »



Lord help me, I'm actually about to respond to this rambling, juvenile incoherent bullsh-t.

Bro, we can't let Sarah Palin win! Forward(TM) with BrObama! Forward(TM) with Simpson-Bowles!  Most pwogwessive pwesident ever!!! Wants bros to marry each other!

Good Lord you're insufferable.

What's insufferable is the usual women-bashing and/or vapid memes being trotted out,

Woman-bashing?  If your criteria for that is that the target is literally a woman, then, yeah, I guess we are. But no, it's a prominent moron and political figure making blatantly racist comments - I think it's justified that we discuss them on, say, a politics forum.

Piss off.

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LMAO, are you trying to make "BrObama" a thing now? What's that even supposed to mean?

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Feel free to get to the point any time soon. Smiley At this point I'm assuming you worked on the Mike Gravel "campaign".

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Grow up.

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"Bankster"? Jesus Christ I hate the True Left. Nice not-so-subtle racism there at the end, too, I'm starting to see why you've got so much sympathy for Sarah Palin. Smiley

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Go ahead and cite any time soon if you want to be taken even remotely serious rather than end up on about a thousand Ignore Lists for posting rambling, hackish bile with no apparent structure.

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Hmmm... "banksters", "handpicked"... I think you're about half a sentence away from talking about the Jews, right?

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Please, please at least post like an adult. I realise that might be asking a bit much, but I was actually going to respond properly to this garbage you've posted until I noticed there was literally nothing of substance that I could comment on.

Go away.

PS: My favourite part of this word vomit you posted is citing some random speech Obama gave six years ago as a Senator in "support" of your "argument" instead of actually citing anything he's done in office to "privatize Social Security".

The sad thing is that you're probably reasonably representative of the True Left™, which is a big part of why the reactionary fringe left is doomed to irrelevancy - and I'm glad to see it die. Hallelujah!
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« Reply #40 on: October 25, 2012, 03:20:30 PM »

What is a "shuck and jive"?  Is that an actual term people use in the past, oh, 70 years?
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« Reply #41 on: October 25, 2012, 03:27:16 PM »

Normal people don't. Racists/Republicans stuck in the 1940s and 50s do.
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« Reply #42 on: October 25, 2012, 03:43:35 PM »

"Grow up," "word vomit" - all cogent retorts!

Let's take an exchange:

STEPHANOPOULOS: You've also said that with Social Security, everything should be on the table.
OBAMA: Yes.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Raising the retirement age?
OBAMA: Everything should be on the table.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Raising payroll taxes?
OBAMA: Everything should be on the table.

Now, I realize that COLA adjustments, retirement age, payroll tax - the fiddling on the margins stuff - is what's being discussed now, the stuff proposed by Simpson-Bowles which Obie commissioned even after it'd been tabled by the Senate.  Obie isn't one to take no for an answer, though; see 2008, when he whipped Congress to pass TARP after they had voted it down.  Now, I'm extrapolating, but I'd say the talking about reforming SS will culminate in a "shock-and-awe" privatization after some "crisis" emerges.  At the very least, Obie is on the record numerous times explaining that he is in favor of reforming(TM) SS to balance accounting identities.  Social Security isn't constrained by revenues, first and foremost,; the government can always fulfill its obligation just like it took it upon itself to fulfill the wishes of the financial sector without raising taxes, reallocating spending, or issuing debt instruments to finance obligations.  It simply marked up the accounts that banks have at the Federal Reserve.  Appointing an AG who has declined to pursue criminal charges against banksters who committed accounting control fraud, issued fraudulent foreclosure documents, pushed people to buy homes they knew they could dispossess them off and have the government clean up.  Unfortunately, these are all empirical forms of evidence, not fanboy memes about binders. 

And, yes, it's Pandora's box woman-bashing all the time:  Using to surrogates to branding Hillary and Geraldine Ferraro as racists, John Favreau's fratty self is still writing speeches, Palin-bashing when there are plenty of more relevant people and *policies* we could be talking about.  Oh, and the "War on Women" stuff:  Let's ignore Obie's signing into law the Stupak amendment.

I'm certainly glad that Dems are glad I'm out of the party (it was actually the Edwards campaign, the only campaign that didn't push the "we're reaching a fiscal cliff" myth and was calling for a mandatory moratorium on foreclosures in 2007).  I left, after a couple of cycles of holding my nose to vote for the "lesser evil" (what Mittbots are doing now) upon realizing Dems are the more effective evil, and that they are the ones who can do Wall Street's bidding with the least public resistance.

Of course, people would label this racism or anti-semitism (actually, Jewish people have a tradition of strong egalitarianism, social criticism, and a rejection of usury).  Identity "politics" (including classism, treating class - including the mythical, extinct "middle class" - a just another identity and redirecting discourse away from class exploitation) is the carte blanche for ultra right-wing policies effected under Democrats.
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« Reply #43 on: October 25, 2012, 06:23:39 PM »

Bro, we can't let Sarah Palin win! Forward(TM) with BrObama! Forward(TM) with Simpson-Bowles!  Most pwogwessive pwesident ever!!! Wants bros to marry each other!

what? I can't tell if you're being serious, or what...
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« Reply #44 on: October 26, 2012, 10:04:04 AM »

It's called observing Republican rhetoric and how they've reacted to the first black president in a histrionic and often racist way. It's not just about his policies at all! Remember, he's a lazy, drug dealing, terrorist sympathizing, Muslim socialist who wants to enslave whites and probably isn't a real American.

And "shuck and jive" is just another example of the blatant racism that Republicans pretend is nothing when people call it out. It is still a racial term to most people, Sarah Palin knows it, and she loves when people defend her by saying it isn't racist because it gives cover to the fact that she was intentionally using coded language to embolden the actual racists who follow her. And that's a fact, jack. Smiley

Yes Sarah Palin is both stupid AND an evil genius coding secret messages that all whites know the meaning of AND have no idea what they mean/that they exist.  She also put hidden messages in Zeppelin albums that you can hear when you play them backwards.   
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« Reply #45 on: October 26, 2012, 11:03:36 AM »

This woman could have been Vice-President. Says it all really.
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« Reply #46 on: October 26, 2012, 12:03:17 PM »

This woman could have been Vice-President. Says it all really.

I would agree if you admitted that Obama and Biden are both the same or worse.  Biden is clearly insane and BO has revealed himself to be not just a lightweight, but also not at all bright.  Palin is also more qualified than Obama, which should either qualify her for VP or disqualify BO from the presidency. 
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« Reply #47 on: October 26, 2012, 12:27:41 PM »

This woman could have been Vice-President. Says it all really.

I would agree if you admitted that Obama and Biden are both the same or worse.  Biden is clearly insane and BO has revealed himself to be not just a lightweight, but also not at all bright.  Palin is also more qualified than Obama, which should either qualify her for VP or disqualify BO from the presidency. 

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« Reply #48 on: October 26, 2012, 01:53:55 PM »

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« Reply #49 on: October 26, 2012, 03:46:04 PM »

LOL at the fact that "Palin is more qualified than Obama" is still being used as a talking point in 2012. It wasn't true in 2008 either just so you know. One major qualification is a basic understanding of the nation's isssues.

Look, I get it. I defended Palin in 2008 because I liked seeing a woman rise to the spotlight and thought many of the attacks on her at the time were unfair and at times sexist. You can see my old posts on this forum defending her! But since then, everything she's said and done has proven me wrong.

At worst, she has the mental capacity of an 8th grade bully and is putting forth a dangerous and divisive view that only appeals to the most gullible of Americans and the darkest elements of society. At best, she's an evil genius who knows what she's doing with the sole motivation of fame and money.

It's probably a little bit of both. Regardless, she is not a serious political figure anymore and any educated individual who defends her at this point is just doing so out of party loyalty, but it really makes you look foolish.
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