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« on: October 26, 2012, 03:12:23 AM »

Wait, what's making people uncomfortable here?  She mostly rattled off a bunch of stuff about Obama's record .   1950s Jerry Lewis talking about making whoopie was edgier.
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2012, 03:16:07 AM »

It makes more sense if the ad was like 'take a risk, vote for Obama the first time as if you went sky diving or hiked a Mt Everest.  Experience the vibe of feeling good about voting Democrat the first time...' along those lines.

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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2012, 01:06:00 AM »

I feel like I need to take a shower after seeing this.

Seeing all these disgusting prude comments in this thread, that is.
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2012, 12:40:04 PM »

I'm still laughing at opebo's last post, but I want to add that, having now watched the clip, I'm not a fan of the ad either. No, I'm not about to come down with a case of the vapors because a woman talks about sex without feeling shame. But I think that this article from The Nation is on to something:

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Look, nobody here us defending the quality if the ad. The point is, whether good or bad in execution, it's not controversial.

That talk of "the rational act of voting" is a joke, too.  Very few vote in their own interests.
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2012, 02:04:17 PM »

Wrong - feminism in part sprang up because women were being objectified as sexual objects.  Up until the movement, it's been a common belief throughout most of history that women were cheaters and desperately wanted sex and that's why they needed to be controlled.  The moment they saw another man, they would throw themselves at them...etc.  Have you ever heard the phrase "She wanted it" in defense of a sexual harrassment claim.  The feminism movement was about breaking that stereotype by being successful, career driven, individuals who take strength in their innate abilities, not their gender role.  Lena Dunham is an idiot being an idiot, not a modern female pioneer of the 21st century.

The career driven aspects of feminism had nothing to do with sexuality.  You're basically just projecting your beliefs on sex onto feminism. 

The goal of feminism on sexuality is not and never has been to go from being repressed and controlled by men to being repressed and controlled by themselves.  That's a complete nonstarter.  It doesn't matter who is holding the whip if you're still being whipped.

Feminist attacks on porn have always been that the direction was catered to men.  That's what objectification is and that's what a lot of pornography is.  The woman has to be attractive and has to do a multitude of acts, while the man is some fat faceless schlub who gets to sit there and enjoy it.  When feminism went really hard against porn in the late 70s, it was also true that the men took most of the money from porn operations. 

Repressive anti-sexual virginity mongering towards women (and men) is another form of objectification, BTW.  The same kind of materialism that goes into this puritan parade can be seen (likely in the same people) who are unholy resistant to paying money for a recycled or used product and throw road rage fits if a shopping cart scratches the paint on their new car.
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