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« on: October 30, 2012, 11:45:26 AM »

Bill Owens ran from 1998 to 2006, 2 terms.
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2012, 12:05:27 AM »

I don't think Republicans can win CO ever, state level or national level.  It's just a non-stop target that Democrats don't want to give up for some odd reason.  The GOP in CO needs to get its act together or it's another California. 
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2012, 06:55:49 PM »
« Edited: November 16, 2012, 07:16:03 PM by 5280 »

All I can say is the GOP in CO needs to get their heads out of the sand and get somebody who knows what they're doing.
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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2012, 09:31:53 PM »
« Edited: November 27, 2012, 09:33:50 PM by 5280 »

My advice for Republicans, find somebody who is a strong candidate in 2014 to run as govenor. John Suthers would be a viable choice to run in 2014.

If that doesn't work, Republicans should flee the state cause it's only going to become more Democrat, alot like California. Look what is happening to California, people are moving out of the state in droves.  That will happen to CO next decade, guaranteed.
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5280
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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2012, 05:34:45 PM »

My advice for Republicans, find somebody who is a strong candidate in 2014 to run as govenor. John Suthers would be a viable choice to run in 2014.

If that doesn't work, Republicans should flee the state cause it's only going to become more Democrat, alot like California. Look what is happening to California, people are moving out of the state in droves.  That will happen to CO next decade, guaranteed.

We don't have a bench to afford running someone strong against Hickenlooper at the moment. Suthers would be great state wide, best use him to take on Udall.

And to the newbie, Coffman has never lost an election. He's been playing politics for decades (House and Senate in the 90s), elected state-wide to Treasurer and SoS. Both the tea party and establishment love him, which is hard to come by these days in Colorado. Yes he took heat because of these calculated moves running for congress to win the conservative support for a state-wide office he's always wanted to run for, but he still won re-election and now he's a unifying figure for the party. Furthermore, while 2016 may be more democratic than 2014, 2012 is midterms where minorities turn out less (not to say democrats don't have the upper edge looking at 2010), but they aren't starting with another huge leap forward liberally from 2012.

And CU is an extremely liberal institution with Boulder being solidly liberal, not lean. When was the last time republicans were actually competitive there?
Reagan won Boulder county in 1984, so that might be the last time it was considered competitive.
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5280
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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2012, 09:31:09 PM »
« Edited: November 28, 2012, 09:33:01 PM by 5280 »

My advice for Republicans, find somebody who is a strong candidate in 2014 to run as govenor. John Suthers would be a viable choice to run in 2014.

If that doesn't work, Republicans should flee the state cause it's only going to become more Democrat, alot like California. Look what is happening to California, people are moving out of the state in droves.  That will happen to CO next decade, guaranteed.
No they aren;t. California has the most electoral votes of any state and will probably gain a seat in the 2020 Census. Texas is the only state that had more population growth than California in the 2010 US Census. People move out of the Northeast because of higher taxes but not CA though. People like the weather and the beaches in CA.
Explain why 254 companies are moving out of CA to more business places like Texas and South Dakota. Companies move where the business environment is more friendly to them without excessive tax burden and regulations. If you want beaches, go to Florida or even South Carolina.

Colorado is leading the example of California in the 80s and 90s right now.

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/moved-342887-companies-texas.html
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2012, 01:38:34 PM »

My advice for Republicans, find somebody who is a strong candidate in 2014 to run as govenor. John Suthers would be a viable choice to run in 2014.

If that doesn't work, Republicans should flee the state cause it's only going to become more Democrat, alot like California. Look what is happening to California, people are moving out of the state in droves.  That will happen to CO next decade, guaranteed.
No they aren;t. California has the most electoral votes of any state and will probably gain a seat in the 2020 Census. Texas is the only state that had more population growth than California in the 2010 US Census. People move out of the Northeast because of higher taxes but not CA though. People like the weather and the beaches in CA.
Explain why 254 companies are moving out of CA to more business places like Texas and South Dakota. Companies move where the business environment is more friendly to them without excessive tax burden and regulations. If you want beaches, go to Florida or even South Carolina.

Colorado is leading the example of California in the 80s and 90s right now.

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/moved-342887-companies-texas.html

CA has more people and more electoral votes than FL or SC or even if you combined FL and SC electoral votes together CA would still have more electoral votes and more people.
And explain to me why CA is the worst run state in the US again?
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-best-and-worst-run-states-in-america-150415625.html
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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2013, 05:48:24 PM »

This may hurt Hickenlooper's chances in CO after it's signed into law, the magazine ban.

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/02/26/hickenlooper-will-support-bill-limiting-gun-magazine-rounds/

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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2013, 11:37:22 PM »

Influx of Californians, liberals from the northeast and from blue states ruin former conservatives states with their socialist left wing policies are like cockroaches, they infest the thriving state/city and leave behind a cesspool of vile and garbage behind that people have to clean up.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/13/this-stunning-chart-shows-you-exactly-what-the-calif-exodus-looks-like-not-ready/

Libertarian-Colorado

Huh
Fiscal conservative... Social moderate/liberal...there is a difference
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2013, 06:38:53 PM »

Democrats will be favored.  The GOP is so, so weak in CO these days.

That may be changing after this gun control bill passes.

You're delusional if you think this will have any impact on next year's races.

I've never even shot a gun before and these bills make me furious.

It's difficult to exaggerate the enormity of the Democrats' political miscalculation here.  Of all the hornets nests the Democrats could have kicked, guns may be the grand-daddy of them all in this state.

I don't think it's much of a miscalculation.  Virtually everyone who might be offended by the recently passed gun control laws was never going to vote Democrat under any circumstances anyway. I know a number of Libertarian and Republican pro-gun folks, and none of them have a problem with these laws; as long as it doesn't really impact their recreation shooting or hunting, they don't care.
Actually, I don't own any guns and have issues with the law.  What does this do exactly, Magpul is moving out of CO among other companies in the same business, people will boycott the state, take their money and spend it in Wyoming, Utah, Arizona.  Hicknelooper is wrong and needs to be voted out of office in 2014.  Californication of CO is happening faster than my head can spin.
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2013, 07:03:47 PM »

Democrats will be favored.  The GOP is so, so weak in CO these days.


That may be changing after this gun control bill passes.

You're delusional if you think this will have any impact on next year's races.

I've never even shot a gun before and these bills make me furious.

It's difficult to exaggerate the enormity of the Democrats' political miscalculation here.  Of all the hornets nests the Democrats could have kicked, guns may be the grand-daddy of them all in this state.

I don't think it's much of a miscalculation.  Virtually everyone who might be offended by the recently passed gun control laws was never going to vote Democrat under any circumstances anyway. I know a number of Libertarian and Republican pro-gun folks, and none of them have a problem with these laws; as long as it doesn't really impact their recreation shooting or hunting, they don't care.
Actually, I don't own any guns and have issues with the law.  What does this do exactly, Magpul is moving out of CO among other companies in the same business, people will boycott the state, take their money and spend it in Wyoming, Utah, Arizona.  Hicknelooper is wrong and needs to be voted out of office in 2014.  Californication of CO is happening faster than my head can spin.

You're just a Republican hack masquerading as a libertarian, so no one cares.
Compelling argument...
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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2013, 06:49:18 PM »

Yeah, that the poll was taken in metro Denver, which is obviously skewed Democrat.  Smells like BS to me.
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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2013, 06:50:17 PM »

There are rumors of other potential candidates from the legislature, all lack-luster and Penry is still being touted for Governor by the Chair.
John Hickenlooper is a spineless noodle, only goes the way the wind blows.
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2013, 12:18:47 PM »

Not that I heard of yet.
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« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2013, 04:39:51 PM »

Basically no one is interested in running against Udall and there's a lot of quiet chatter for less known candidates against Hickenlooper.

State Sen. Randy Baumgardner, R-Hot Sulphur Springs (rural Colorado would love this)
Arapahoe County District Attorney George Brauchler (1 year on the job and has the Holmes case)
State Rep. Owen Hill, R-Colorado Springs (very young in office 1 year)
former Senate Minority Leader Mike Kopp (resigned when his wife died)

And AG we may have a three way race.
Cynthia Coffman (the number 2 now) and Mike Coffman's wife is already in.
House Minority Leader Mark Waller just announced (give fight next week for his replacement between Libby Szabo and Brian Delgrosso)
And Ken Buck may get in after all (everyone was waiting for him in the first place and then he got cancer but now he's cancer free granted he's also in remission). Still he's making the rounds and looking good

The bigger the selection, the better chance Hickenlooper gets his rear kicked out. Can't stand the guy anymore, he's such a jelly fish and out of touch with Colorado voters.
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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2013, 09:06:21 PM »

Its not like the phone recording is any less real then it was in 2010. And as along as that is floating around, Buck will never get the time of day from the soccer moms in Jefferson County.
You mean wishy-washy moderates who can't make their mind up until the last minute and based their vote on emotion instead of logic?
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« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2013, 11:44:57 AM »
« Edited: August 02, 2013, 11:51:09 AM by 5280/East California »

Greg Brophy is looking like a reasonable candidate, I watched and listened to his interview on 9news.  Not bad guy for the Republicans, a Prius owner and a cyclist, interesting regardless. Would I vote for him?  Not sure yet, but most likely since there are no Libertarian candidates running.
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« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2013, 12:29:39 PM »

When's the last time CO actually threw an incumbent out? Even Wayne Allard survived there (partly due to the GOP strength in 2002).

Even the mediocre Hickenlooper survives.  I'm betting by 8 points or so.  I still think the demographics change in CO strongly favors him.
Only the urban areas with populated liberals in Denver and Boulder.
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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2013, 01:40:01 PM »

Can Tom Tancredo beat Hickenlooper?

The last poll of Quinnipiac (23/08)

Hickenlooper 46%
Tancredo 45%
Look at the 1998 governor election in Colorado. Bill Owens ran against Gail Schoettler, barely won with 49.06% to 48.43%.  It is possible.
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