1840 U.S. Presidential Election (Webster vs. Van Buren vs. Birney)
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Question: Decision '40:
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President Daniel Webster (National Republican-Massachusetts)/Vice President Francis P. Granger (National Republican-New York)
 
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Former Senator Martin Van Buren (Democrat-New York)/Senator John Tyler (Democrat-Virginia)
 
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Former Mayor James G. Birney (Liberty-Ohio)/Attorney Thomas Earle (Liberty-Pennsylvania)
 
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« on: November 03, 2012, 04:45:46 PM »

Sixteen years after the first election of Henry Clay and the National Republican party remains in power. President Daniel Webster is running for a second term. As usual, the Democrats, the unsuccessful second party, are running a candidate and it is again Martin Van Buren, co-founder of the party. The third choice in the election is no the de funct Anti-Masonic Party, but a new one. The Liberty Party, founded on the idea of emancipation of slaves and the abolition of slavery, may prove a threat to Webster's chances in the North, especially given the Bay Stater's willingness to compromise on the issue of slavery in order to preserve the Union, despite his own personal opposition to it.
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2012, 05:37:47 PM »

Give Daniel Webster another four years! 
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2012, 06:09:47 PM »

The party that supports some basic human rights for black people.
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2012, 07:27:01 PM »

While I'm a long time National Republican voter, I'll vote Birney this election.  Slavery is disgusting and needs to be abolished! 
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2012, 07:42:33 PM »

Van Buren, against a one-party state.
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2012, 08:20:18 PM »

Birney may indeed put a damper on the NR's chances for reelection.  On AH.com he actually won I believe.
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2012, 02:53:07 PM »

Do we have a working list of previous presidents?
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2012, 05:10:10 PM »

Van Buren is the only sane choice in this election.
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2012, 08:51:43 PM »

Van Buren is the only sane choice in this election.
Yeah, he also has a traitor as his VP.
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2012, 09:33:09 PM »

If this is a tie or really close we should have a 1824ish type scenario Wink
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2012, 11:33:00 PM »

Do we have a working list of previous presidents?

We do. I'm in no position to repost the official list, but here:
2. Jefferson 1797-1809
3. CC Pinckney 1809-1813
4. D. Clinton 1813-1825
5. Henry Clay 1825-1837
6. Webster 1837-?
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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2012, 08:03:59 PM »

Birney, although if this election was in OTL U.S. I would vote for Van Buren.
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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2012, 08:15:01 PM »

Van Buren is the only sane choice in this election.
Yeah, he also has a traitor as his VP.
To be fair John Tyler was apart of the Virginia Peace Conference which tried to find a peace agreement between the USA and the CSA. He opposed secession until the U.S. Congress rejected the agreement and only then decided that the U.S. government had no interest in peace. Additionally, as president Tyler was willing to send troops to Rhode Island to put down Dorr's Rebellion thus showing he was willing to attack "traitors." Not that I agree with that but still.
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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2012, 12:59:45 AM »

What can be done to Save our Beloved Nation from near certain Rupture!
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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2012, 03:00:10 AM »

Damn it, missed this one, too? I'd vote for Birney.
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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2012, 05:15:12 PM »

1840 United States Presidential Election
President Webster was unable to quell the opposition that emerged from both sides. From one direction came Andrew Jackson's failed protege, another failed also-ran, Martin Van Buren whose campaign had gained steam in the wake of newly enacted tariffs and spending projects, offensive to a still deeply sectionalist America. While Webster might've been able to overcome Van Buren, from the other direction came James G. Birney of the newly founded Liberty Part. With anti-slavery voters in Northern states upset over Webster's straddling of the issue and his past compromises, a popular revolt in a region that should've strongly supported Webster took place.

Former Senator Martin Van Buren (Democrat-New York)/Senator John Tyler (Democrat-Virginia) 133 electoral votes, 36.5% of the popular vote
Former Mayor James G. Birney (Liberty-Michigan)/Attorney Thomas Earle (Liberty-Pennsylvania) 106 electoral votes, 36.3% of the popular vote
President Daniel Webster (National Republican-Massachusetts)/Vice President Francis P. Granger (National Republican-New York) 55 electoral votes, 27.3% of the popular vote

With neither candidate possessing a majority, the election went to the House of Representatives. There, Birney attempted to fight on but to little avail. Only a few states possessed representatives supportive of his cause and the fight was between Van Buren and Webster. With National Republican fatigue causing the election of a plurality-Democratic House, Van Buren was elected the 7th President of the United States of America.

Former Senator Martin Van Buren (Democrat-New York) 15 states
President Daniel Webster (National Republican-Massachusetts) 8 states
Former Mayor James G. Birney (Liberty-Michigan) 3 states

The closeness of the election, combined with its being determined in the House of Representatives, left a bad taste in the mouths of many Birney's supporters, and it was believed that, come the next election, it would finally be their turn for victory. In the Senate, the election was between Tyler, an experienced Senator, and Thomas Earle, an attorney from Pennsylvania. Tyler easily won.

Senator John Tyler: 37 Senators
Attorney Thomas Earle: 15 Senators
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« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2012, 10:35:41 PM »

I see a thread for the dems, are the nat reps sticking around?
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« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2012, 06:41:05 AM »

I see a thread for the dems, are the nat reps sticking around?

In our 1844, Clay was the only Whif seeking the nomination.
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