OH: 52-47 Obama, PPP

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Wow.....!

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Initiate J.J effect, tied race

Probably.  PPP has problems. 

Jesus, JJ. You've lost it all now.

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Initiate J.J effect, tied race

Probably.  PPP has problems.  

Jesus, JJ. You've lost it all now.

Yes... when PPP is saying what you want, they're reasonable... now they've got problems

We've been talking about the same problem for 2-3 weeks.  It looks like they have a fairly strong D house effect.  Their methodology is good, but they have this house effect.  

The last week of polls in Ohio show TIE (Rasmussen), Obama +1 (Gravis), +2, +2, +3, +3, +3, +4, +4, +4, +5, +6, +8 (Zogby). PPP's result here is completely in line with the consensus. No house effect. Try again.

Don't bother. He's not even trying to feign actual level-headedness anymore. If JJ is actually arguing that the only person that's right is Rassmussen and 13 other polls have it wrong, there's nothing more that can be done but wait for Tuesday and watch him vanish.

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"When a campaign is claiming all polls are wrong, they are going to lose."

Isn't this how the old 'rule' goes?

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J. J.'s First Rule of Elections:  "If a candidate that say something like 'I don't look at the polls,' or 'The only polls that matter are the ones on Election Day,' that candidate will lose."

BRTD, you forgot:

Corollary to the First Rule:  "Never trust just one poll.  Trust several and remember that the electorate changes its mind quickly."

16 polls out of the last 17 (since the 25th) have shown Obama with a lead and you think that it's tied?!?!? You're the one trusting no-one. You're only further proving our case...with your own freaking rules. Hack.

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J. J.'s First Rule of Elections:  "If a candidate that say something like 'I don't look at the polls,' or 'The only polls that matter are the ones on Election Day,' that candidate will lose."

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J. J.'s First Rule of Elections:  "If a candidate that say something like 'I don't look at the polls,' or 'The only polls that matter are the ones on Election Day,' that candidate will lose."

You keep forgetting:

Corollary to the First Rule:  "Never trust just one poll.  Trust several and remember that the electorate changes its mind quickly."

YOU'RE THE ONE ONLY TRUSTING A HEAVY MINORITY OF POLLS. WE'RE ALL TRUSTING 99% OF POLLS BUT YOU.