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« on: November 04, 2012, 09:36:55 PM »

Susquehanna poll has PA a dead heat.  The Obama campaign reacts by scheduling 4 visits from Bill.

Clearly they believe it is coming down around them.
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2012, 09:37:57 PM »

Nice try.
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2012, 09:39:29 PM »

If they were desperate they would send the President..........

Only two more days.......
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2012, 09:40:18 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2012, 09:40:48 PM »


Not even that. A nice try requires some effort..
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2012, 09:40:48 PM »

If they were desperate they would send the President..........

Only two more days.......

The President is a net negative there.
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2012, 09:41:14 PM »

Bucks country rally tonight was 25-30K, bigger than Bush 04. PA slight advantage Obama, but they wouldn't be TV advertising and sending Clinton if they didnt think it was quite close.
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2012, 09:41:43 PM »

If they were desperate they would send the President..........

Only two more days.......

The President is a net negative there.

Not in Philly.
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2012, 09:49:50 PM »

Obama is toxic in Pennsylvania, that's why he won't show and having Bill Clinton parachuting in on his behalf, will be seen for what it is, a last ditch effort to get the base off there asses; Clinton is not President, but granted he's the best they have and into the bargain the base is not there, and they (Obama campaign) know this and all the spin by Axelrod and other Obama surrogates is laughable; another example of arrogance and contempt for the intelligence of the average voter.
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2012, 09:51:00 PM »

Bucks country rally tonight was 25-30K, bigger than Bush 04. PA slight advantage Obama, but they wouldn't be TV advertising and sending Clinton if they didnt think it was quite close.

When your opponent puts ad's and forces in a lean Obama state you have to put some forces in there just to be sure you win 100%. Romney is the one that's desperate.
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2012, 09:54:45 PM »

Bucks country rally tonight was 25-30K, bigger than Bush 04. PA slight advantage Obama, but they wouldn't be TV advertising and sending Clinton if they didnt think it was quite close.

When your opponent puts ad's and forces in a lean Obama state you have to put some forces in there just to be sure you win 100%. Romney is the one that's desperate.

What is your argument? That is not close? I said nothing about desperation so dont spin my words.
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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2012, 09:57:41 PM »

Bucks country rally tonight was 25-30K, bigger than Bush 04. PA slight advantage Obama, but they wouldn't be TV advertising and sending Clinton if they didnt think it was quite close.

When your opponent puts ad's and forces in a lean Obama state you have to put some forces in there just to be sure you win 100%. Romney is the one that's desperate.

What is your argument? That is not close? I said nothing about desperation so dont spin my words.

It's obviously closer than, say, Connecticut or New Jersey but obviously not close enough for Obama himself to bother spending terribly much time in it.
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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2012, 09:58:14 PM »

PA will be called right at the 8pm closing once again.  Watch and see.
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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2012, 09:59:18 PM »

If they were desperate they would send the President..........

Only two more days.......

The President is a net negative there.

Not in Philly.

In the suburbs, that might be changing. 
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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2012, 09:59:43 PM »

It's completely normal to spend resources to hold down your leaners. Why is this remotely surprising?
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« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2012, 10:01:44 PM »

It's completely normal to spend resources to hold down your leaners. Why is this remotely surprising?

Because they're desperate, and only making themselves look inelegant by refusing to admit it.
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« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2012, 10:01:44 PM »

It's completely normal to spend resources to hold down your leaners. Why is this remotely surprising?

All they can right now is spin it as if Romney has a chance in Pennsylvania instead of trying for Ohio, Wisconsin and Iowa. It's wasted money that can go into those states.
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« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2012, 10:02:10 PM »

Susquehanna poll has PA a dead heat.  The Obama campaign reacts by scheduling 4 visits from Bill.

Clearly they believe it is coming down around them.

Shut your pie hole for once.
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« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2012, 10:04:45 PM »

LiberalJunkie 99, your blind faith is commendable and I hope you never lose it; but suffice to say, I think you will be profoundly disappointed on Wednesday; the basis for this faith of yours, is the echo chamber you live in; I suspect you assume, a poll which is biased in favor of Dems, is accurate and I bet you have discounted the 47% tie in the poll, because it makes you uncomfortable and you prefer to think your guy will win, how sweet. Only 48 hours to go, before we know who is blowing smoke and who was right in there analysis.
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« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2012, 10:13:21 PM »

The key question at this point..if PA seemed out of play the ENTIRE campaign and if each campaign, the GOP tries here and fails every time (since '92), why is there going to be a sudden switch now?

OH and VA are gone and Romney is panicking.  He knows it's over.
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« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2012, 10:24:10 PM »

The key question at this point..if PA seemed out of play the ENTIRE campaign and if each campaign, the GOP tries here and fails every time (since '92), why is there going to be a sudden switch now?

OH and VA are gone and Romney is panicking.  He knows it's over.

The key question is: Why are you panicking?
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« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2012, 10:25:38 PM »

ROFLMAO
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« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2012, 10:29:10 PM »

Yes, some people are indeed very desperate, but they are not Obama and Clinton Roll Eyes
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« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2012, 10:33:43 PM »

I genuinely think this strategy will do nothing but ensure that the Dem majority voters in these states (PA & MN) show up on Tues.
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« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2012, 10:39:15 PM »

Romney doesn't look like somebody who is panicking; rather my money is on Obama, he's chasing his tail around the country and for a guy who's at 47%, there's less hope and well, the change could be here on Wednesday morning. Obama is trying to mobilize his base, Romney is expanding the map and forcing Obama into a crunch; if this wasn't the case, why do we see Obama campaigning around the clock, spending money on ad buys in "safe" states; the problem with Dem logic, is they believe there propaganda and buy into this assumption, that the 2008 model is happening again, if so, why isn't Obama polling at the same level as he did four years ago; the idea that Obama might or could exceed his 2008 performance is preposterous; you look at his polling/approval rating for most of the year, it has been stuck at 48% and going above 50% is a rare occurrence and as an observer of how undecideds break by a majority for the challenger. Bottom line, my gut tells me this, Romney wins, by what margin, that is a question which remains murky. My gut is never wrong.
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