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« Reply #925 on: January 21, 2017, 03:19:38 AM »

Yeah, I think this is a Tossup, but that the GOP will hold GA, WI and OH in the end. MI is the one I am most worried about.
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« Reply #926 on: January 21, 2017, 03:22:36 AM »

Obama 2008+Clinton 2016+Carter/Nunn 2014+Barksdale 2016 should be a broad enough coalition of counties and margins to beat Casey Cagle or Brian Kemp.
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« Reply #927 on: January 21, 2017, 09:38:41 AM »

How close did Carter get in 2014, which was a strong Republican year with a heavily GOP senate race also on the ballot?
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« Reply #928 on: January 21, 2017, 09:50:22 AM »

How close did Carter get in 2014, which was a strong Republican year with a heavily GOP senate race also on the ballot?
He lost 52-44
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« Reply #929 on: January 21, 2017, 09:56:43 AM »

How close did Carter get in 2014, which was a strong Republican year with a heavily GOP senate race also on the ballot?
He lost 52-44

Oh. And it looks like he actually underperformed Michelle Nunn. Lovely
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« Reply #930 on: January 21, 2017, 10:54:20 AM »

How close did Carter get in 2014, which was a strong Republican year with a heavily GOP senate race also on the ballot?
He lost 52-44

Oh. And it looks like he actually underperformed Michelle Nunn. Lovely

Well Carter was running against an incumbent while Nunn was running for an open seat.
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« Reply #931 on: January 21, 2017, 10:58:43 AM »

If he wins, he can run for president.
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« Reply #932 on: January 21, 2017, 01:17:07 PM »

Obama 2008+Clinton 2016+Carter/Nunn 2014+Barksdale 2016 should be a broad enough coalition of counties and margins to beat Casey Cagle or Brian Kemp.

Carter/Barnes in the rurals and Clinton margins in the metro is sufficient.

2002 Barnes or 2010?
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« Reply #933 on: January 21, 2017, 02:35:55 PM »

2010 Barnes. Both Carter and Barnes did about net 15% better than Clinton in rural Georgia, and with that, she would've almost crossed 50.

I think the Carter/Nunn result in 2014 was very impressive. Nunn is more of a libertarian moderate, so I'd prefer her, but Carter is pretty great, too.
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« Reply #934 on: January 21, 2017, 04:41:04 PM »

2010 Barnes. Both Carter and Barnes did about net 15% better than Clinton in rural Georgia, and with that, she would've almost crossed 50.

I think the Carter/Nunn result in 2014 was very impressive. Nunn is more of a libertarian moderate, so I'd prefer her, but Carter is pretty great, too.

I'm agnostic about Dems winning this race, but I think either could win if things break right. The path is there, IMO. The other will likely go for the Senate race in 2020.

These are some down ballot races both could run for:
Nunn: Lieutenant Governor, Secretary of State, Commissioner, Insurance Commissioner
Carter: Lieutenant Governor, Secretary of State, Attorney General
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« Reply #935 on: January 21, 2017, 04:43:45 PM »

2010 Barnes. Both Carter and Barnes did about net 15% better than Clinton in rural Georgia, and with that, she would've almost crossed 50.

I think the Carter/Nunn result in 2014 was very impressive. Nunn is more of a libertarian moderate, so I'd prefer her, but Carter is pretty great, too.

I'm agnostic about Dems winning this race, but I think either could win if things break right. The path is there, IMO. The other will likely go for the Senate race in 2020.

These are some down ballot races both could run for:
Nunn: Lieutenant Governor, Secretary of State, Commissioner, Insurance Commissioner
Carter: Lieutenant Governor, Secretary of State, Attorney General

The governor appoints the AG in Georgia
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« Reply #936 on: January 21, 2017, 05:10:33 PM »

2010 Barnes. Both Carter and Barnes did about net 15% better than Clinton in rural Georgia, and with that, she would've almost crossed 50.

I think the Carter/Nunn result in 2014 was very impressive. Nunn is more of a libertarian moderate, so I'd prefer her, but Carter is pretty great, too.

I'm agnostic about Dems winning this race, but I think either could win if things break right. The path is there, IMO. The other will likely go for the Senate race in 2020.

These are some down ballot races both could run for:
Nunn: Lieutenant Governor, Secretary of State, Commissioner, Insurance Commissioner
Carter: Lieutenant Governor, Secretary of State, Attorney General

The governor appoints the AG in Georgia

No, it's definitely an elected position.
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« Reply #937 on: January 21, 2017, 05:38:49 PM »

Trump disaster, and Democrats can win in unlikely places in 2018. Too many things can go wrong for the President -- an economic meltdown, foreign-policy disasters, military calamities, and civil unrest....

Stay tuned. 2018 will not be like 2014 or 2010.
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« Reply #938 on: January 21, 2017, 05:44:23 PM »

Would love to see him run again.
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« Reply #939 on: January 22, 2017, 05:47:19 PM »

How close did Carter get in 2014, which was a strong Republican year with a heavily GOP senate race also on the ballot?
He lost 52-44

Oh. And it looks like he actually underperformed Michelle Nunn. Lovely

Well Carter was running against an incumbent while Nunn was running for an open seat.

A highly unpopular incumbent with ratings deep underwater.
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« Reply #940 on: January 22, 2017, 06:06:36 PM »

Chris Kennedy, Gwen Graham or Jason Carter in Trump bad midterm where the Senate and Govs are fluid, Democrats can unseat GOPers. And Georgia will be a target.  This can be a reverse of what happened to the Dems in 2010 during Obama's first term. I wouldn't be surprised to see all three win.
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« Reply #941 on: January 22, 2017, 06:52:58 PM »

How close did Carter get in 2014, which was a strong Republican year with a heavily GOP senate race also on the ballot?
He lost 52-44

Oh. And it looks like he actually underperformed Michelle Nunn. Lovely

Well Carter was running against an incumbent while Nunn was running for an open seat.

A highly unpopular incumbent with ratings deep underwater.

Alot of Deal unpopularity came from the handling of the Ice Storm after that was over everything went back to normal. The Deep South is a extremely polarized region and it really isn't affected by who is in the White House.
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« Reply #942 on: January 22, 2017, 08:29:04 PM »

If it's a D-Friendly year, GA could go D for Gov. But I'm not sure Carter is a better candidate than Holcomb/Abrams/Reed would be.
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« Reply #943 on: January 22, 2017, 09:20:37 PM »

How close did Carter get in 2014, which was a strong Republican year with a heavily GOP senate race also on the ballot?
He lost 52-44

Oh. And it looks like he actually underperformed Michelle Nunn. Lovely

Well Carter was running against an incumbent while Nunn was running for an open seat.

A highly unpopular incumbent with ratings deep underwater.

Deal wasn't highly unpopular, he was highly unknown. It's just the few people that did care enough to know him didn't like him.

And if Carter runs again I'll work my ass off to win this seat for the Democrats.
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« Reply #944 on: January 22, 2017, 10:01:01 PM »

I think another thing to pay attention to is if Democrats can find a modern coalition to win statewide in GA and what it means for 2020 and other similar states like AZ, TX, and maybe SC.
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« Reply #945 on: January 23, 2017, 09:40:26 AM »

If he wins, he can run for president.

Not in 2020 though. I don't think two years as Governor and 5 years as state senator are enough.
Potential VP pick maybe ?
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« Reply #946 on: January 23, 2017, 10:41:58 AM »

He'd probably have a better shot with an open seat, combined with the possibility of a poor Trump performance. I'd be in full support of him running again.

Agreed, yes. GA is definitely trending Dem, but 2018 is only an option if there is a huge backlash against the Trumpster.
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« Reply #947 on: January 23, 2017, 10:47:49 AM »

It helps that there is no Senate race in the state in 2018. So you're not going to have voters come out for the Republican incumbent senator and then vote for the GOP gubernatorial candidate
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« Reply #948 on: January 23, 2017, 12:16:05 PM »

If he wins, he can run for president.

Not in 2020 though. I don't think two years as Governor and 5 years as state senator are enough.
Potential VP pick maybe ?

Ignorant Progressives hate southern since they think that if you're a white male from the south you're automatically racist, sexist, misogynist, homophobic, islamophohic, etc.
Indeed, being a white man from the south is a hurdle no Democrat can ever overcome. It's why Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and John Edwards were never able to make it onto a Democratic presidential ticket.
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« Reply #949 on: January 23, 2017, 01:19:44 PM »

If he wins, he can run for president.

Not in 2020 though. I don't think two years as Governor and 5 years as state senator are enough.
Potential VP pick maybe ?

Ignorant Progressives hate southern since they think that if you're a white male from the south you're automatically racist, sexist, misogynist, homophobic, islamophohic, etc.
Indeed, being a white man from the south is a hurdle no Democrat can ever overcome. It's why Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and John Edwards were never able to make it onto a Democratic presidential ticket.

Maybe for liberals back in the day southerns worked but now they don't.

Tim Kaine is from Richmond, Virginia. Virginia is part of the south.
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