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« Reply #950 on: January 23, 2017, 04:32:33 PM »

LOL Virginia being a part of the south



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Becoming more Democratic doesn't mean it's no longer Southern.
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« Reply #951 on: January 23, 2017, 05:29:16 PM »

Wasn't Virginia the flagship of the damn confederacy ? The home state of Robert Lee ?
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« Reply #952 on: January 23, 2017, 05:44:35 PM »

Wasn't Virginia the flagship of the damn confederacy ? The home state of Robert Lee ?
Yep.
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« Reply #953 on: January 23, 2017, 05:44:57 PM »
« Edited: January 23, 2017, 05:53:56 PM by Virginia »

You must be really stoned if you think that map is legit... but who cares anyways

Huh? That is the Census map of the Southern United States.

If you have a different idea of what now constitutes the South, maybe you should actually describe it so we all know what you're talking about. It's a better idea than just sitting here making insulting posts, as if everyone should obviously know & be devoted to Young Texan's secret Southern definition.
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« Reply #954 on: January 23, 2017, 06:49:39 PM »

You must be really stoned if you think that map is legit... but who cares anyways

Huh? That is the Census map of the Southern United States.

If you have a different idea of what now constitutes the South, maybe you should actually describe it so we all know what you're talking about. It's a better idea than just sitting here making insulting posts, as if everyone should obviously know & be devoted to Young Texan's secret Southern definition.

It's the culture that determines whether or not a particular place is southern, not some arbitrary line drawn in 1767.
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« Reply #955 on: January 23, 2017, 07:08:49 PM »
« Edited: January 23, 2017, 07:10:51 PM by Virginia »

It's the culture that determines whether or not a particular place is southern, not some arbitrary line drawn in 1767.

But then who becomes the arbiter of Southern culture? I never really went past NoVA but as I understand it a large part of that state could still be considered Southern in culture, in which area size may be relevant here since we're talking about geographical regions. With that, would Virginia have been considered Southern in 2005?

It seems better to call a state Southern if it's in what is defined as the geographical South. If the culture has mostly "de-Southernized," then it seems more fit to say something like "New South," as some demographers have done in relation to political trends.

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« Reply #956 on: January 23, 2017, 07:11:45 PM »

Is Virginia still a majority southern baptist state ? I feel that this could be one of the most important objective marker of "southerness".
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« Reply #957 on: January 23, 2017, 08:11:18 PM »

Is Virginia still a majority southern baptist state ? I feel that this could be one of the most important objective marker of "southerness".

It was quite shocking when I looked at pew research and found Virginia to be 10% southern baptist, compared to 25% for Alabama. Especially when you look at this map



So apparently the hegemony of southern baptists is overstated, with bare pluralities in most parts of the map the norm.

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« Reply #958 on: January 26, 2017, 05:25:28 AM »

It was quite shocking when I looked at pew research and found Virginia to be 10% southern baptist, compared to 25% for Alabama. Especially when you look at this map

Is that all Baptists, or just white evangelical Baptists? Throughout most of the South, this can make a big difference.

This report from Pew says that VA is 15% Baptist as far as what would be the likely definition of SBA; white evangelicals. Another 11% are black Baptists or Baptists who fall into neither category, for a total of 26% Baptist.

By the same measurement, GA is 34% Baptist; NC 31%; SC 34%. Even if you just at whites, it's 15% in VA and 21%, 20% and 22%, respectively. Not a huge difference there. I don't think using a Baptist litmus test is an ideal way to measure it.
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« Reply #959 on: January 26, 2017, 10:32:41 AM »

Is Virginia still a majority southern baptist state ? I feel that this could be one of the most important objective marker of "southerness".

It was quite shocking when I looked at pew research and found Virginia to be 10% southern baptist, compared to 25% for Alabama. Especially when you look at this map



So apparently the hegemony of southern baptists is overstated, with bare pluralities in most parts of the map the norm.

Also looking at that map I would guess that a majority of the state lives in a Catholic or Methodist county.
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« Reply #960 on: January 26, 2017, 10:54:49 AM »

^Yeah, I think Catholics (NOVA and Virginia Beach) and Methodists (coal counties) together are a majority of the state. That's one way to measure the decline of "southernness" in Virginia, more objective than its move to the left.
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« Reply #961 on: January 27, 2017, 04:47:28 PM »

^Yeah, I think Catholics (NOVA and Virginia Beach) and Methodists (coal counties) together are a majority of the state. That's one way to measure the decline of "southernness" in Virginia, more objective than its move to the left.

Methodism is a map overlaid with German-Americans, alongside Lutheranism. I would wager the two combined would cut amazingly deep into the Baptist map, particularly in counties with large numbers of people of German descent.
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« Reply #962 on: January 27, 2017, 10:15:11 PM »

You must be really stoned if you think that map is legit... but who cares anyways

Huh? That is the Census map of the Southern United States.

If you have a different idea of what now constitutes the South, maybe you should actually describe it so we all know what you're talking about. It's a better idea than just sitting here making insulting posts, as if everyone should obviously know & be devoted to Young Texan's secret Southern definition.

It's the culture that determines whether or not a particular place is southern, not some arbitrary line drawn in 1767.

Well in that case, based on the policy of our lawmakers and governor, my home state of Michissippi should be on the map of southern states. Wink
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« Reply #963 on: January 30, 2017, 11:01:05 PM »

I wonder if now that Sally Yates is out of a job she'll consider running. I'd vote for her in a heartbeat.
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« Reply #964 on: January 31, 2017, 01:10:48 AM »

I wonder if now that Sally Yates is out of a job she'll consider running. I'd vote for her in a heartbeat.

As it turns out...

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« Reply #965 on: January 31, 2017, 07:53:43 AM »

I wonder if now that Sally Yates is out of a job she'll consider running. I'd vote for her in a heartbeat.

Lol. We have the next Wendy Davis!
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« Reply #966 on: January 31, 2017, 11:07:39 AM »

Carter/Yates 2018!

(I know Governor and Lt. Gov. aren't on the same ticket, but still.)
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« Reply #967 on: January 31, 2017, 12:37:58 PM »

Yates should run for state AG.
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« Reply #968 on: January 31, 2017, 03:27:35 PM »

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« Reply #969 on: February 01, 2017, 06:56:36 PM »

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« Reply #970 on: February 01, 2017, 10:41:19 PM »

An interesting article from AJC:

http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2017/02/01/the-georgia-fervor-to-draft-sally-yates-as-a-sign-of-democratic-angst/

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My guess is that she won't run for anything.
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« Reply #971 on: February 02, 2017, 10:49:35 PM »

Update: Democrats learn nothing from the past or from America.
News at 7.
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« Reply #972 on: February 03, 2017, 11:35:34 AM »

Update: Democrats learn nothing from the past or from America.
News at 7.

Care to elaborate?
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« Reply #973 on: February 06, 2017, 01:20:14 AM »
« Edited: February 06, 2017, 01:21:54 AM by Fmr. Pres. Griffin »

Must be preparing for another run - very high-energy!

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« Reply #974 on: February 06, 2017, 01:29:26 AM »

Must be preparing for another run - very high-energy!



The asterisk shows a man with ambitions for higher office.
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