The Official Obama 2.0 Approval Ratings Thread

[Oakvale]

You guys just seriously need to calm down and wait a month before looking at the polls and seeing everything's basically back to normal. As with any OMG POLITICAL ARMAGEDDON event (the government shutdown, the Obamacare glitches) people will forget fairly shortly and the boring equilibrium will be restored.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

You guys just seriously need to calm down and wait a month before looking at the polls and seeing everything's basically back to normal. As with any OMG POLITICAL ARMAGEDDON event (the government shutdown, the Obamacare glitches) people will forget fairly shortly and the boring equilibrium will be restored.

Seriously.

There has been no major economic calamity and there is no war gone bad.  If you seriously think Obama's headed into Bush territory, you're either paranoid or overly optimistic, depending on where you side.

[Oakvale]

You guys just seriously need to calm down and wait a month before looking at the polls and seeing everything's basically back to normal. As with any OMG POLITICAL ARMAGEDDON event (the government shutdown, the Obamacare glitches) people will forget fairly shortly and the boring equilibrium will be restored.

Seriously.

There has been no major economic calamity and there is no war gone bad.  If you seriously think Obama's headed into Bush territory, you're either paranoid or overly optimistic, depending on where you side.

Time to break out Democrats.gif again, I think!

[IceSpear]

You guys just seriously need to calm down and wait a month before looking at the polls and seeing everything's basically back to normal. As with any OMG POLITICAL ARMAGEDDON event (the government shutdown, the Obamacare glitches) people will forget fairly shortly and the boring equilibrium will be restored.

Seriously.

There has been no major economic calamity and there is no war gone bad.  If you seriously think Obama's headed into Bush territory, you're either paranoid or overly optimistic, depending on where you side.

Haven't you read the media? The "disastrous Obamacare rollout" is "Obama's Katrina" AND "Obama's Iraq"!

[Mechaman]

LMAO at some of the people who compared this to Bush' Katrina or even Clinton getting his knob polished.  I mean really:

Eisenhower: 1958 Recession
Nixon: Watergate
Reagan: Iran-Contra
Clinton: Getting blown by a fat Jew
Bush: Katrina, economic meltdown, Iraq, too many sh*t to name
Obama: Botching the launch of an internet website!

Yes, this is truly Obama's great calamity!

Note: not saying I think Obama is a truly great president (actually I'm very disappointed in him), but if this is the best that Fox News and the Reaction Corner can get on him, I'm not surprised why they continually underperform on election nights.

[IceSpear]

It's actually very offensive that the media is comparing this to things that caused thousands of American DEATHS (Iraq War, Katrina).

Truly beyond the pale and shows how low they're willing to go to fit their false equivalence narrative.

[hopper]

LMAO at some of the people who compared this to Bush' Katrina or even Clinton getting his knob polished.  I mean really:

Eisenhower: 1958 Recession
Nixon: Watergate
Reagan: Iran-Contra
Clinton: Getting blown by a fat Jew
Bush: Katrina, economic meltdown, Iraq, too many sh*t to name
Obama: Botching the launch of an internet website!

Yes, this is truly Obama's great calamity!

Note: not saying I think Obama is a truly great president (actually I'm very disappointed in him), but if this is the best that Fox News and the Reaction Corner can get on him, I'm not surprised why they continually underperform on election nights.

Well you forgot about Bengazi, IRS, and NSA.

[hopper]

It's actually very offensive that the media is comparing this to things that caused thousands of American DEATHS (Iraq War, Katrina).

Truly beyond the pale and shows how low they're willing to go to fit their false equivalence narrative.

Well the slide in approval ratings due to the troublesome healthcare rollout is similar to Bush W's falling approval ratings after Katrina.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Well yeah, I don't think anyone is meaning to compare the scale or impact of the events. It's just that the slip is similar. Some folks think the numbers will stay where they're at because I think what we're seeing now with Obama is very much in line with the seeds of doubt Romney planted last year. It wasn't enough to lose Obama the election because people trusted him and wanted to give him a chance, but the warnings ("weak manager," "poor business sense," "in over his head," etc.) are looking a lot more credible. That's all. People have erred on the side of giving Obama the benefit of the doubt, but somewhere along the line over the last two months, there's been a straw that broke that camel's back. At least that's how I see it. Maybe I am being too optimistic; who knows?

[pbrower2a]

Well yeah, I don't think anyone is meaning to compare the scale or impact of the events. It's just that the slip is similar. Some folks think the numbers will stay where they're at because I think what we're seeing now with Obama is very much in line with the seeds of doubt Romney planted last year. It wasn't enough to lose Obama the election because people trusted him and wanted to give him a chance, but the warnings ("weak manager," "poor business sense," "in over his head," etc.) are looking a lot more credible. That's all. People have erred on the side of giving Obama the benefit of the doubt, but somewhere along the line over the last two months, there's been a straw that broke that camel's back. At least that's how I see it. Maybe I am being too optimistic; who knows?

After the catastrophe that was Dubya -- and face it, by any objective other than perhaps sharing an ideology he was grossly inadequate to meet the challenges of the Presidency -- Americans have become fussier about anything that the government does. People now realize that policies can foster bad business practices that bring ruin, that patriotic fervor can be manipulated to bring about military debacles, and that it is possible to mismanage the response to natural disasters. People now realize that dishonesty, inattention, and cronyism don't sort themselves out in American politics on their own.

Mitt Romney was not alone in sowing seeds of doubt about President Obama. The entire Republican Party did that effectively and with relish. So did the shadowy groups that want American government to facilitate the economic  interests of the richest and most powerful people in America instead of the 'losers' that the rest of us are -- Americans for Prosperity, Crossroads America, Club for Growth, Citizens United, the National Chamber of Commerce, etc. Such groups believe that wealth and power for elites is the only measure of political success.  These entities seek an American political order that puts profits first -- forever. They want George W. Bush without the laziness and intellectual mediocrity.

It is a great fallacy that government must be 'run like a business' and that the only people who can run government effectively are businessmen. Business as a rule has a narrow, but vital role in creating wealth and generating income for owners, and to those ends it must ordinarily optimize revenues and costs while maintaining some public good will. (If a business is extremely profitable but unable to keep public trust, then it is a criminal enterprise). Government cannot so operate. Nobody wants the government to maximize tax revenues while minimizing public services, and nobody wants it to decide to release dangerous criminals because of the cost of keeping them in prison -- or lose wars because military success is more costly than defeat.

We have generally not elected businesspeople as President. The most common occupation leading to the Presidency is "attorney". Those former businessmen who have been even partly-effective Presidents have been demonstrably successful at something else. If profit-and-loss responsibilities were the sole measure of political acumen, then maybe we would elect captains of cruise ships as President.

Successful politics implies the building of trust with people who don't give it easily. People who dislike the food at a restaurant need never go to that restaurant again; after all, there are other restaurants. When government fails few of us can simply find another country.
 

[Badger]

LMAO at some of the people who compared this to Bush' Katrina or even Clinton getting his knob polished.  I mean really:

Eisenhower: 1958 Recession
Nixon: Watergate
Reagan: Iran-Contra
Clinton: Getting blown by a fat Jew
Bush: Katrina, economic meltdown, Iraq, too many sh*t to name
Obama: Botching the launch of an internet website!

Yes, this is truly Obama's great calamity!

Note: not saying I think Obama is a truly great president (actually I'm very disappointed in him), but if this is the best that Fox News and the Reaction Corner can get on him, I'm not surprised why they continually underperform on election nights.

Well you forgot about Bengazi, IRS, and NSA.

Funny, so did the voters.

[Tender Branson]

CA (Field Poll)

51-43

http://www.field.com/fieldpollonline/subscribers/Rls2451.pdf

[Bandit3 the Worker]

It's official. People now disapprove of Obama from the left...

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/business/most-us-youth-unhappy-with-barack-obamas-job-performance-poll/articleshow/26864608.cms

[pbrower2a]

CA (Field Poll)

51-43

http://www.field.com/fieldpollonline/subscribers/Rls2451.pdf

60% or higher maroon (70% saturation)
55-59% medium red (50% saturation)
50-54% pink (30% saturation)
45-49% orange -- Obama ahead (30% saturation)
45-49% yellow -- exact tie (40% saturation)
45-49% aqua -- Obama behind (20% saturation)
44% blue (20% saturation)
40-43% blue (50% saturation)
30-40% deep blue (70% saturation)
under 30%(90% saturation)

[pbrower2a]

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http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2013/PPP_Release_CO_120613.pdf


60% or higher maroon (70% saturation)
55-59% medium red (50% saturation)
50-54% pink (30% saturation)
45-49% orange -- Obama ahead (30% saturation)
45-49% yellow -- exact tie (40% saturation)
45-49% aqua -- Obama behind (20% saturation)
44% blue (20% saturation)
40-43% blue (50% saturation)
30-40% deep blue (70% saturation)
under 30%(90% saturation)

[Bandit3 the Worker]

The Colorado poll isn't too bad, considering PPP overpolled Romney supporters - again.

[pbrower2a]

The Colorado poll isn't too bad, considering PPP overpolled Romney supporters - again.

Easy to do -- by not polling Spanish speakers who have strongly rejected the GOP.

[IceSpear]

The Colorado poll isn't too bad, considering PPP overpolled Romney supporters - again.

2014 will be a lower turnout year, so it's possible these swing states could be having an electorate Romney actually won.

[Person Man]

So at least that's good news for Western Democrats like myself- we're not doing any worse than Midwestern or even some Northeast Dems.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

I have noticed that Obama's approval ratings have returned to near-normal levels these past few days. But just wait a few days, and the right-wing media will have some other bogus anti-Obama complaint to trot out.

They never quit.

[Person Man]

I have noticed that Obama's approval ratings have returned to near-normal levels these past few days. But just wait a few days, and the right-wing media will have some other bogus anti-Obama complaint to trot out.

They never quit.

Indeed. Or like I said, maybe they know something we don't and are just biding their time until they have proof that he's a crook... or maybe the Conservative Media  is just being the Conservative Media.

[Maxwell]

The Colorado poll isn't too bad, considering PPP overpolled Romney supporters - again.

2014 will be a lower turnout year, so it's possible these swing states could be having an electorate Romney actually won.

Please ignore him, he's the left-wing krazen.

[Person Man]

The Colorado poll isn't too bad, considering PPP overpolled Romney supporters - again.

2014 will be a lower turnout year, so it's possible these swing states could be having an electorate Romney actually won.

Please ignore him, he's the left-wing krazen.

but 2016 won't be...

[Tender Branson]

NJ going neutral (Monmouth poll):

47-47

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http://www.monmouth.edu/assets/0/32212254770/32212254991/32212254992/32212254994/32212254995/30064771087/48ff6339-16b2-426b-a1fc-809970b0c940.pdf

[pbrower2a]

NJ going neutral (Monmouth poll):

47-47

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http://www.monmouth.edu/assets/0/32212254770/32212254991/32212254992/32212254994/32212254995/30064771087/48ff6339-16b2-426b-a1fc-809970b0c940.pdf



60% or higher maroon (70% saturation)
55-59% medium red (50% saturation)
50-54% pink (30% saturation)
45-49% orange -- Obama ahead (30% saturation)
45-49% yellow -- exact tie (40% saturation)
45-49% aqua -- Obama behind (20% saturation)
44% blue (20% saturation)
40-43% blue (50% saturation)
30-40% deep blue (70% saturation)
under 30%(90% saturation)