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« Reply #400 on: November 25, 2013, 05:28:48 PM »

Obama's numbers aren't sinking because of a botched website rollout; they're sinking because this whole situation has nurtured growing distrust in big government.

They were sinking because The Media stinks.

Past few days though, they've gone back up.
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« Reply #401 on: November 26, 2013, 06:50:22 AM »

New York goes negative on Obama:

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« Reply #402 on: November 26, 2013, 09:25:54 AM »

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Really awful when one considers that this is his home state. This is consistent with a 40% approval rate nationwide.


60% or higher maroon (70% saturation)
55-59% medium red (50% saturation)

50-54% pink (30% saturation)
45-49% orange -- Obama ahead (30% saturation)
45-49% yellow -- exact tie (40% saturation)
45-49% aqua -- Obama behind (20% saturation)
44% blue (20% saturation)
40-43% blue (50% saturation)
30-40% deep blue (70% saturation)
under 30%(90% saturation)





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« Reply #403 on: November 26, 2013, 12:07:05 PM »

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If this were a year before the election then one could expect the Republican nominee to win about a 40-state landslide. 



60% or higher maroon (70% saturation)
55-59% medium red (50% saturation)

50-54% pink (30% saturation)
45-49% orange -- Obama ahead (30% saturation)
45-49% yellow -- exact tie (40% saturation)
45-49% aqua -- Obama behind (20% saturation)
44% blue (20% saturation)
40-43% blue (50% saturation)
30-40% deep blue (70% saturation)
under 30%(90% saturation)





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« Reply #404 on: November 26, 2013, 01:23:09 PM »

If this were a year before the election then one could expect the Republican nominee to win about a 40-state landslide.

Well, no, because the Republicans would actually have to campaign.
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« Reply #405 on: November 26, 2013, 01:25:17 PM »

He's back up to 46% again on Rasmussen. For a Democrat, that's not exactly a losing formula.
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« Reply #406 on: November 26, 2013, 01:38:00 PM »

Another interesting little tidbit: Respondents in the Illinois poll said they voted for Obama by 9. Actually he won the state by 17. So they greatly oversampled Republicans.
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« Reply #407 on: November 26, 2013, 02:41:16 PM »

Another interesting little tidbit: Respondents in the Illinois poll said they voted for Obama by 9. Actually he won the state by 17. So they greatly oversampled Republicans.

Or people don't want to admit they voted for Obama.
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« Reply #408 on: November 26, 2013, 02:43:08 PM »

Or people don't want to admit they voted for Obama.

I wouldn't be ashamed to admit it. Especially with the smooth rollout of Obamacare.
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« Reply #409 on: November 26, 2013, 06:06:19 PM »

If this were a year before the election then one could expect the Republican nominee to win about a 40-state landslide.

Well, no, because the Republicans would actually have to campaign.

Pennsylvania was close to being the tipping-point state. Incumbent Governors and Senators on the average gain 6%  from approval rating to the vote share in a binary election. President Obama would lose roughly 51-49 as an average campaigner against an average challenger in Pennsylvania... and he would have to win the state by about 2% to have a reasonable chance of winning reelection.

That said,

He's back up to 46% again on Rasmussen. For a Democrat, that's not exactly a losing formula.
   

That translates to a 52% vote share nationwide based on the "6% gain rule". 
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/02/myth-of-incumbent-50-rule.html
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« Reply #410 on: November 26, 2013, 06:08:08 PM »


So he'd win with a greater percentage than he did in 2012?
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« Reply #411 on: November 26, 2013, 08:49:40 PM »


So he'd win with a greater percentage than he did in 2012?

I'd need some corroboration on that poll, as it is an outlier. President Obama got about 52% of the share of votes cast for him or Romney, which is good enough for me.

... Many people were convinced that when the President's approval rating was 47% or so last winter that he was going to lose. What those people ignored was that

(1) President Obama was going to campaign
(2) opponents could make catcalls about him with impunity and drag his approval ratings down -- but once the campaign began in earnest those people were obliged to come up with alternatives... or lose.
(3) President Obama is an effective campaigner.

No pol looks effective when he is on the defensive even for something trivial. Given a scale of 1 (a fashion failure like mismatched shoes) and 10 (being caught on tape committing a crime) this website glitch is something like a "2". Get him off the defensive and his approval ratings will show it.   

 
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« Reply #412 on: November 27, 2013, 06:37:29 AM »

OH:

President Barack Obama's job approval rating among Ohio voters is a negative 34 - 61 percent, his lowest score in any Quinnipiac University poll nationally or in any state, according to a poll released today.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-and-centers/polling-institute/ohio/release-detail?ReleaseID=1985

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Also, pbrower, you need to change NY to aqua.
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« Reply #413 on: November 27, 2013, 12:46:22 PM »

Quinnipiac is such an outlier that I don't even know why we take it at face value here. Remember how bad all their Colorado polls were?
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« Reply #414 on: November 27, 2013, 12:49:06 PM »

Yeah Obama having 61% disapproval in Ohio is insane.
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« Reply #415 on: November 27, 2013, 12:50:52 PM »

So basically what Bandit has been saying in this thread is that every poll is wrong.

Kay.
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« Reply #416 on: November 27, 2013, 12:56:15 PM »

Yeah Obama having 61% disapproval in Ohio is insane.

I live near Cincinnati, and from the way people have been talking lately, I think maybe they disapprove because he isn't liberal enough.
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« Reply #417 on: November 27, 2013, 12:58:50 PM »

Also, a new nationwide poll says 54% think Obamacare is either just right or not liberal enough:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/27/cnnorc-poll-are-obamacares-flaws-fixable

I think Obama is actually losing support from the left.
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« Reply #418 on: November 27, 2013, 01:02:18 PM »

Quinnipiac is such an outlier that I don't even know why we take it at face value here. Remember how bad all their Colorado polls were?

The Mercyhurst poll in OH has shown the same, that Obama's approvals there are in the dumpster.

But keep on ignoring the facts ...
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« Reply #419 on: November 27, 2013, 01:03:40 PM »

The Mercyhurst poll in OH has shown the same, that Obama's approvals there are in the dumpster.

But keep on ignoring the facts ...

Mercyhurst??? We're going by Mercyhurst?Huh?
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« Reply #420 on: November 27, 2013, 01:05:57 PM »

Also, a new nationwide poll says 54% think Obamacare is either just right or not liberal enough:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/27/cnnorc-poll-are-obamacares-flaws-fixable

I think Obama is actually losing support from the left.

41% think the Republican-crafted health care plan is too liberal.  That's just scary.
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« Reply #421 on: November 27, 2013, 02:50:48 PM »
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OH:

President Barack Obama's job approval rating among Ohio voters is a negative 34 - 61 percent, his lowest score in any Quinnipiac University poll nationally or in any state, according to a poll released today.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-and-centers/polling-institute/ohio/release-detail?ReleaseID=1985

President Obama's Approval

President Barack Obama gets a split 47 - 49 percent job approval rating, near his all-time New York State low of 45 - 49 percent in an August 12, 2011, Quinnipiac University poll. The president is down 13 - 87 percent among Republicans and 35 - 61 percent among independent voters, while Democrats approve 81 - 15 percent.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-and-centers/polling-institute/new-york-state/release-detail?ReleaseID=1983

60% or higher maroon (70% saturation)
55-59% medium red (50% saturation)

50-54% pink (30% saturation)
45-49% orange -- Obama ahead (30% saturation)
45-49% yellow -- exact tie (40% saturation)
45-49% aqua -- Obama behind (20% saturation)
44% blue (20% saturation)
40-43% blue (50% saturation)
30-40% deep blue (70% saturation)
under 30%(90% saturation)






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« Reply #422 on: November 28, 2013, 10:21:22 AM »

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In case the poll numbers improve -- you will know why.
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« Reply #423 on: November 28, 2013, 10:27:52 AM »


It isn't hurting him, but people aren't really paying much attention to this story.
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« Reply #424 on: November 28, 2013, 04:20:01 PM »

I doubt Obama's approval will ever rise above 50% again, barring some huge unambiguously positive event/accomplishment. The question is whether or not he will return to his ~45% equilibrium or will continue the slide until he reaches Dubya territory.
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