Pennsylvania 2014 Discussion Thread

[henster]

Crawley has 23K more votes than Corbett a lot of Republicans leaving Governor blank...

[Maxwell]

Corbett has his goose cooked officially.

[Keystone Phil]

Tom Wolf is approaching 60% when his opponents were a twice elected, sitting statewide officeholder and a prolific fundraising, nationally recognized Congressman. No one would have imagined...

It does amuse me to see the Stack love around here. I know he's become a progressive hero of sorts but, honestly, guys, you wouldn't really love him.

[henster]

Just shows how powerful TV ads are still these days. With all the talk about cord cutting and movement to the internet ads on TV are still the most effective way to define a candidate and reach out to the mass of voters.

[IceSpear]

Crawley has 23K more votes than Corbett a lot of Republicans leaving Governor blank...

It would've been interesting to see how high Guzzardi would've gotten, but I guess that's why Corbett got him kicked off the ballot, to avoid an embarrassingly high showing.

In other news, Wolf has swept every county in the state. His closest call was Schwartz's home turf of Montgomery County, which he won by about 500 votes.

[Dr. Cynic]

Voted for Wolf and Neuman (who I knew wouldn't win, but his margin in Washington county was massive and even though on the issues, I would normally have voted Stack, I have to stick with my home area).

Schwartz's campaign was like the Poseidon. Strolling along nice and in the lead. Not worried at all, not even after the warnings of the poll numbers. Tom Wolf was that wave that capsized it.

I'm betting the Wolf-Stack ticket in November will have Casey '90 like numbers. Corbett could very well be decimated.

[windjammer]

Tom Wolf is approaching 60% when his opponents were a twice elected, sitting statewide officeholder and a prolific fundraising, nationally recognized Congressman. No one would have imagined...

It does amuse me to see the Stack love around here. I know he's become a progressive hero of sorts but, honestly, guys, you wouldn't really love him.

Why are you saying that Phil? Do you know something about him that shows he's an ass? I'm curious .


And seriously, it's time to poll PA. I guess Wolf is favored, but by which margin?

[Keystone Phil]

Tom Wolf is approaching 60% when his opponents were a twice elected, sitting statewide officeholder and a prolific fundraising, nationally recognized Congressman. No one would have imagined...

It does amuse me to see the Stack love around here. I know he's become a progressive hero of sorts but, honestly, guys, you wouldn't really love him.

Why are you saying that Phil? Do you know something about him that shows he's an ass? I'm curious .


And seriously, it's time to poll PA. I guess Wolf is favored, but by which margin?

He's my State Senator. He's be in office since 2001. Let's just say there is good reason why people in both parties call him an empty suit. He embodies the politician stereotype: the flashy smile, the hair, the top-of-the-line suits...while not doing much at all.

[angus]

Tom Wolf is approaching 60% when his opponents were a twice elected, sitting statewide officeholder and a prolific fundraising, nationally recognized Congressman. No one would have imagined...

It helps to have your own multimillion-dollar warchest, doesn't it?

I saw Wolf commercials early on, like back in mid-winter.  They were extremely effective.  They said, look at this guy, got a PhD in astrophysics from MIT and then came back home to drive a backhoe for his daddy's construction business, started his own business which hires former crack-addicts, widows, and war veterans who have lost limbs, helps keep families together, landed a crippled airplane saving all 298 passengers, saved a drowning child, cured testicular cancer, does volunteer work at a soup kitchen every night, and is definitely not a lawyer.  I said to myself, "That's my candidate.  I'm becoming a democrat today."

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

I wouldn't trust a man who creates adverts featuring testimonials of employees working for a company named after said man but Schwartz pulled a Coakley so I can't say I feel sorry for her.

Phil, what do you think of Boyle? He seems like a Democrat you could respect.

[J. J.]

Op-ed piece on the Fall Election:  http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2014/05/tom_corbett_could_still_win_ag.html#incart_river_default

I disagree somewhat on fundraising.  Had Wolf won be less than 10 points, he might have had a problem with fundraising.  A 40 point win will attract at least some funds.

Corbett needs to point to some major legislative victory. and raise a lot of funds.

[Skill and Chance]

I think Wolf's huge overperformance last night should put the bloody primary narrative to rest in PA.  Who would have thought he would get almost 58%?  Not looking good at all for Corbett.

[Suburbia]

I just want to know how did Corbett get elected in 2010? What went wrong with the Onorato campaign?

[Maxwell]

It wasn't so much that Corbett got elected, it was that the GOP got elected. Corbett could have been a blank disc, and still beaten Onorato because 2010.

[IceSpear]

I just want to know how did Corbett get elected in 2010? What went wrong with the Onorato campaign?

Corbett was a popular sitting Attorney General who even got re-elected in the Dem wave of 2008, running in one of the best Republican years in decades (2010). It's only once he became governor that he tanked politically.

[Holmes]

Tom Wolf is approaching 60% when his opponents were a twice elected, sitting statewide officeholder and a prolific fundraising, nationally recognized Congressman. No one would have imagined...

It does amuse me to see the Stack love around here. I know he's become a progressive hero of sorts but, honestly, guys, you wouldn't really love him.

Why are you saying that Phil? Do you know something about him that shows he's an ass? I'm curious .


And seriously, it's time to poll PA. I guess Wolf is favored, but by which margin?

He's my State Senator. He's be in office since 2001. Let's just say there is good reason why people in both parties call him an empty suit. He embodies the politician stereotype: the flashy smile, the hair, the top-of-the-line suits...while not doing much at all.

Kind of like a lieutenant governor.

[Badger]

Crawley has 23K more votes than Corbett a lot of Republicans leaving Governor blank...

It would've been interesting to see how high Guzzardi would've gotten, but I guess that's why Corbett got him kicked off the ballot, to avoid an embarrassingly high showing.

In other news, Wolf has swept every county in the state. His closest call was Schwartz's home turf of Montgomery County, which he won by about 500 votes.

Well, I was going to cry for a map, but..... :-P

Wow, I though Schwartz would've at least won a couple counties in her district. Did she even beat McCord for second?

[IceSpear]

Crawley has 23K more votes than Corbett a lot of Republicans leaving Governor blank...

It would've been interesting to see how high Guzzardi would've gotten, but I guess that's why Corbett got him kicked off the ballot, to avoid an embarrassingly high showing.

In other news, Wolf has swept every county in the state. His closest call was Schwartz's home turf of Montgomery County, which he won by about 500 votes.

Well, I was going to cry for a map, but..... :-P

Wow, I though Schwartz would've at least won a couple counties in her district. Did she even beat McCord for second?

Yeah. There's still a few precincts outstanding, but it won't be enough to change the placements.

Wolf 57.9%
Schwartz 17.6%
McCord 16.9%
McGinty 7.7%

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Can we get a Lieutenant Governor map?

[publicunofficial]

Corbett breaking out the loserspeak early.

[ProudNewEnglander]

Can we get a Lieutenant Governor map?

Take a look at the atlas. I made one yesterday.

[windjammer]

Seriously, if Corbett is defeated, what was the last time where an incumbent governor was defeated in PA?

[politicallefty]

Seriously, if Corbett is defeated, what was the last time where an incumbent governor was defeated in PA?

No Governor of Pennsylvania has ever been defeated in seeking reelection, although that is obviously due in big part to the Pennsylvania Constitution only allowing a second consecutive term since its 1968 revision.

[J. J.]

Seriously, if Corbett is defeated, what was the last time where an incumbent governor was defeated in PA?

No Governor of Pennsylvania has ever been defeated in seeking reelection, although that is obviously due in big part to the Pennsylvania Constitution only allowing a second consecutive term since its 1968 revision.

Adding a bit to this, the closest reelection race was 1982, Thornburgh vs. Ertel.  Ertel was US. Rep whose district basically ran down the West Branch of the Susquehanna from Williamsport down to south of Harrisburg, a nice chunk of Central PA.  Ertel was able to cut into the GOP base of the "T," by basically winning that district.

Wolf is from York, which is also part of Central PA.  You could see a similar dynamic, though Ertel's district spanned three media markets.

[DINGO Joe]

Why hasn't PA instituted a severance tax on all the NG and coal they been producing over the years?  They're literally the only major producer that doesn't.