Pennsylvania 2014 Discussion Thread

[President Johnson]

If there was a bag that you knew had nothing but bad things, and another bag, that you don't know anything about, but might be better, which would you pick?

I don't think Corbett is a bag full of bad things. He didn't do everything right, but just compare him to other GOP governors like Scott or Perry.

Another interesting question in PA is: If Wolf is elected, what seems to be almost certain now, how is he going to deal with the republican State Legislature? And in which direction will his popularity develop after his inauguartion in January? If he is only elected on an "anti-Corbett-platform", his popularity might decline soon. Especially when he proves to be unable to work with republican legislators.

[Keystone Phil]

Yeah, it's already known that Wolf and the GOP legislature are expecting a very long four years.

[IceSpear]

Hillary campaigns for Wolf.

According to the article, it was a pretty good speech. She seemed to attack Corbett even more than Wolf has.

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[Keystone Phil]

A 20th century economy won't work? Hillary delcares war on Bill Clinton's Presidency.

[IceSpear]

When Wolf was pressed for his exact tax plan and how he would compensate for all the new spending he wanted to do, it wasn't pretty. Still, too late, doesn't matter.

Yeah, that was pretty cringeworthy. I just got done watching it.

On the plus side, I liked when Wolf hammered Corbett on voter ID, even flat out stating the elephant in the room: that there was no evidence of voter fraud and the goal was solely to suppress Democratic votes. He even alluded to Turzai's "deliver Pennsylvania to Mitt Romney" comment.

[angus]

If Wolf is elected, what seems to be almost certain now, how is he going to deal with the republican State Legislature?

Hopefully better than Corbett, who consistently failed to get legislative support for his agenda.

You're right about the campaign, though.  It's largely negative.  That's true for most of the races nationwide, and especially the senate races.

[Keystone Phil]

The First Lady is campaigning in Philly on Wednesday for Wolf. 

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

The First Lady is campaigning in Philly on Wednesday for Wolf. 

Hopefully she can pronounce names correctly this time.

[IceSpear]

The First Lady is campaigning in Philly on Wednesday for Wolf. 

Hopefully she can pronounce names correctly this time.

"I'm very proud to be here today supporting Tom Coyote"

[angus]

Mr. Worf will break the glass ceiling when he becomes the first klingon governor of Pennsylvania. 

[Modernity has failed us]

Mr. Worf will break the glass ceiling when he becomes the first klingon governor of Pennsylvania. 

I laughed way too hard at this.

[IceSpear]

Corbett's website photoshopped a black woman standing next to him.

LOL

[Badger]

Corbett's website photoshopped a black woman standing next to him.

LOL

Just read the article including his prior comment about having Latinos in the cabinet. "Let us know if you find any"?!?

[Modernity has failed us]

Corbett's website photoshopped a black woman standing next to him.

LOL

He's so freakin' stupid.

[Vega]

Corbett's website photoshopped a black woman standing next to him.

LOL

He's so freakin' stupid.

I'm pretty sure everyone in that picture is 'shopped.

[Keystone Phil]

Corbett's website photoshopped a black woman standing next to him.

LOL

He's so freakin' stupid.

..it's a campaign error (which I'm not excusing, by the way), dude. The Governor isn't sitting on a laptop, editing pictures on his campaign site.

[IceSpear]

Phil, do Corbett yard signs actually exist? I'm not being sarcastic or anything. I ask because I've been all over Delaware and Chester County in the past couple months, and can't remember seeing a single Corbett sign, yet I've seen dozens of Wolf signs. Even when going through heavily Republican areas, the place is blanketed with signs for the Republican state legislative candidates and Republican HoR candidates, but absolutely nothing for Corbett. I'm not trying to pull a Peggy Noonan and act like it means anything (the polls speak for themselves on that front), but it's pretty bizarre.

[Vega]

Phil, do Corbett yard signs actually exist? I'm not being sarcastic or anything. I ask because I've been all over Delaware and Chester County in the past couple months, and can't remember seeing a single Corbett sign, yet I've seen dozens of Wolf signs. Even when going through heavily Republican areas, the place is blanketed with signs for the Republican state legislative candidates and Republican HoR candidates, but absolutely nothing for Corbett. I'm not trying to pull a Peggy Noonan and act like it means anything (the polls speak for themselves on that front), but it's pretty bizarre.

They very much exist. I was in York, and ironically there were alot of campaign signs all along the road.

I've seen a decent amount Corbett signs in Mechanicsburg and Camp Hill.

[DemPGH]

Corbett signs exist out here on the frontier in western PA. You mainly see them along the road or at an intersection, although I actually saw one in a yard on which the house had a washing and and old fridge sitting on the porch alongside a big garbage bag or something. Yeah, seriously.

As to this photoshopping - yeah, it's a "campaign error" alright, of the deliberate-and-hope-no-one-says-anything variety.

[Vega]

I think Phil meant that obviously Corbett wasn't the one who was shopping the pics. It was probably a staffer or something.

[IceSpear]

Just got back to PA and to my surprise there were several Corbett yard signs in State Assembly district 166 (parts of Delaware and Montgomery Counties) which is a Democratic stronghold. (I can only tell because there were a few Sarah Armstrong signs in the vicinity as well.) Of course this means absolutely nothing as obviously some Republicans live here, but I was surprised because they popped up in the last week.

Yeah, I was going through Haverford just a few days ago, and the place was flooded with Armstrong and Meehan signs, nothing for Corbett that I saw. Maybe I just wasn't looking hard enough...

[DemPGH]

I think Phil meant that obviously Corbett wasn't the one who was shopping the pics. It was probably a staffer or something.

Oh, I agree! I'd just be shocked with both his approval and reputation in the tank that he would have staffers who would just do something like that without his knowledge.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I think Phil meant that obviously Corbett wasn't the one who was shopping the pics. It was probably a staffer or something.

Oh, I agree! I'd just be shocked with both his approval and reputation in the tank that he would have staffers who would just do something like that without his knowledge.

These types of things happen fairly often. IIRC, Brad Sherman edited his mother out of a lot of his campaign pictures for no reason.

[Modernity has failed us]

Corbett's website photoshopped a black woman standing next to him.

LOL

He's so freakin' stupid.

..it's a campaign error (which I'm not excusing, by the way), dude. The Governor isn't sitting on a laptop, editing pictures on his campaign site.

Maybe I was just stating that in general

[Keystone Phil]

Phil, do Corbett yard signs actually exist? I'm not being sarcastic or anything. I ask because I've been all over Delaware and Chester County in the past couple months, and can't remember seeing a single Corbett sign, yet I've seen dozens of Wolf signs. Even when going through heavily Republican areas, the place is blanketed with signs for the Republican state legislative candidates and Republican HoR candidates, but absolutely nothing for Corbett. I'm not trying to pull a Peggy Noonan and act like it means anything (the polls speak for themselves on that front), but it's pretty bizarre.

Yes, they do exist but they're obviously not all over the place.   I know of no more than three properties in my area with Corbett signs. That being said, Wolf doesn't have many up in the city or the suburbs that I frequent either.

I was in Delaware county today and saw plenty of signs for the big State Senate race but no Gubernatorial signs at all. I was in Montco yesterday and Wednesday and saw quite a few Wolf signs and plenty of legislative signs. Only one Corbett sign.

I think Phil meant that obviously Corbett wasn't the one who was shopping the pics. It was probably a staffer or something.

Oh, I agree! I'd just be shocked with both his approval and reputation in the tank that he would have staffers who would just do something like that without his knowledge.

Are you serious? You think they run campaign design ideas by him? No candidate for that high of an office is ever that hands on. Come on.

And yes, it was a deliberate error by a staffer. I wasn't saying "campaign error" like someone accidentally pressed a button and an image of a black woman suddenly appeared.