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Question: Yo dawg, which one youse want?
Senator Lewis Cass (Democrat-Michigan)/Former Representative William O. Butler (Democrat-Kentucky)   -6 (20%)
Supreme Court Justice John McLean (National Republican-Ohio)/N.Y. State Comptroller Millard Fillmore (National Republican-New York)   -4 (13.3%)
Former State Senator Charles Francis Adams (Free Soil-Massachusetts)/Senator John P. Hale (Free Soil-New Hampshire)   -15 (50%)
Mr. Gerrit Smith (Liberty-New York)/Mr. Charles C. Foote (Liberty-Michigan)   -5 (16.7%)
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« on: November 15, 2012, 07:04:22 pm »
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The Election of 1848 presents four choices to the American people. While three of these choices all oppose slavery in some form or another, Senator Lewis Cass of Michigan seems to have the South locked down. Meanwhile, National Republican McLean, Free-Soiler Adams, and Liberty nominee Gerrit Smith are scrambling for the votes of the North. Aside from the issue of slavery, much public debate is centered around Western expansion. While Van Buren supported expansion without slavery--thus ensuring that no expansion took place--Cass and Adams both support expansion (though for Adams it mainly mirrors Van Buren's stance) while Smith and McLean are more cautious on the issue. All four candidates have their surrogates speaking across the country and hoping for the privileges of patronage. Which will you choose?


Senator Lewis Cass (D-MI)/Congressman William O. Butler (D-KY)


Supreme Court Justice John McLean (NR-OH)/New York State Comptroller Millard Fillmore (NR-NY)


Former State Senator Charles F. Adams (FS-MA)/Senator John P. Hale (FS-NH)


Gerrit T. Smith (L-NY)/Charles C. Foote (L-MI)
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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2012, 07:07:22 pm »
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Voted Cass. We need America to expand west to fulfill our Manifest Destiny. Voting for an anti-slavery candidate could only tear the nation apart in ways its not ready to deal with yet and McLean just promises more status quo. Cass is the only real choice here.
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2012, 07:10:25 pm »
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Vote Free Soil, America needs to be a morally upstanding country, slavery is unacceptable in the 19th century!
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2012, 07:13:02 pm »
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Adams.
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2012, 08:05:20 pm »
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I was torn between Adams and McLean, but McLean's choice of Millard Fillmore (one of the worst presidents ever) as VP seals it for me. Adams.
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2012, 08:51:10 pm »
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Not a big fan of expansionist warmongers. Voted McLean, though tough between him and Smith.
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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2012, 09:43:53 pm »
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Probably Adams, although I'm from Michigan and would be inclined to vote Cass for that reason.
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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2012, 11:51:35 pm »
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Reading on it, some resolution on Oregon would probably have happened in Van Buren's term, and it probably would've been similar to OTL's. So it's expansion into Mexico that's in question.

Texas is still an independent republic, or did the Mexicans get it back?
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2012, 12:02:27 am »
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Adams
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2012, 01:59:19 am »
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Without Van Buren or Hale as the Free Soil nominee, I'll vote for the Barnburner Garrit Smith.


without TX, is there WI?

then again, with so much antislavery sentiment across the nation, maybe DE has become a free state and so the balance is tipped already.
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2012, 02:19:32 am »
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Adams by far.
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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2012, 08:03:17 am »
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Adams. 
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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2012, 08:58:37 am »
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Free Soil.
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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2012, 11:10:32 am »
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I think we may be seeing a totally inexplicable collapse of traditional politics. I think this may be the end for the National Republican Party.
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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2012, 11:32:58 am »
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I think we may be seeing a totally inexplicable collapse of traditional politics. I think this may be the end for the National Republican Party.

Historians would cite the failure by the two then-major parties to properly address the crisis of slavery. Wink
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I think we may be seeing a totally inexplicable collapse of traditional politics. I think this may be the end for the National Republican Party.

Historians would cite the failure by the two then-major parties to properly address the crisis of slavery. Wink

I would still go as far as saying that this will be noted by historians as a collapse of biblical proportions. The Democrats may have only won votes in the south.
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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2012, 12:29:36 pm »
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I wonder if the election of Adams will lead to a civil war earlier then in OTL.
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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2012, 11:42:15 pm »
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Bumping for the final 24 hours.
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« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2012, 06:39:25 pm »
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About a final hour and a half, not that the conclusion isn't predetermined. Map'll be up shortly after time runs out.
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« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2012, 09:50:04 am »
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I may post some raw vote totals, depending on what you set as being the final vote. I think this must be the highest turnout in a while.
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« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2012, 11:25:02 am »
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Yeah, I've noticed we typically get 20-25 or so, though once we got around 45 IIRC...
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The 1848 United States Presidential Election
With both the previously relevant National Republican and Liberty parties pushed aside, the campaign became essentially a two-way race between Adams and Cass. While Adams' father and grandfather, both notable and accomplished statesmen of their time, had been denied the Presidency on multiple occasions throughout both their careers, Charles F. proved to be the one who could do it, garnering a near majority of the popular vote and a definitive electoral vote victory over Cass, who even lost crucial Southern states thanks to pluralities gained by the Free Soil ticket. This would be marked as one of the single most important and re-aligning elections of United States history.

Former State Senator Charles Francis Adams (Free Soil-Massachusetts)/Senator John P. Hale (Free Soil-New Hampshire) 204 electoral votes, 49.8% of the popular vote
Senator Lewis Cass (Democrat-Michigan)/Former Representative William O. Butler (Democrat-Kentucky) 71 electoral votes, 20.2% of the popular vote
Mr. Gerrit Smith (Liberty-New York)/Mr. Charles C. Foote (Liberty-Michigan) 0 electoral votes, 16.7% of the popular vote
Supreme Court Justice John McLean (National Republican-Ohio)/N.Y. State Comptroller Millard Fillmore (National Republican-New York) 0 electoral votes, 13.3% of the popular vote
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Adams/Hale: Free Soil: 1,433,834
Cass/Bulter: Democratic: 581,595
Smith/Foote: Liberty: 480,824
McLean/Fillmore: National Republican: 382,931
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