With the 2012 results, are VA/CO slowly becoming D leans and not 50/50? (user search)
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pa2011
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« on: November 17, 2012, 08:09:06 PM »
« edited: November 17, 2012, 08:10:57 PM by pa2011 »

Don't think you can call Virignia lean Democratic until we see in 2016/2020 what black turnout looks like when there is not an African-American leading the ticket.  

 Massive black turnout resulted in Obama winning Henrico Co in suburban Richmond by about 10 points, both in 2008 and 2012.  Without a large turnout, Henrico is at best 50-50 and likely lean Republican. And in traditionally-conservative Chesterfield, also suburban Richmond, black voters really, really kept GOP margins in check. Same can be said for numerous other counties across southern Virginia and Hampton Roads.

Without black voters, Northern Virginia alone can't carry the state for Democrats, at least not yet.

It's just far from certain that another Democratic candidate will be ever again be able to motivate African-Americans anything even close to what Obama was able to.
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pa2011
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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2012, 09:59:20 AM »



Henrico is GONE for the GOP and that was going to happen black guy or no black guy.  This wasn't some one time trend here, the county was moving sharply towards the Dems well before Obama.

Yes, but the reason why is the African-American population in Henrico has been growing at a rapid clip as more leave Richmond for the suburbs.  Simple census numbers. Black population grew from 25% to nearly 30 percent just from 2000 to 2010.  In 1980 Henrico was only 15 percent black.  Obviously, the growth in the black population is going to shift voting habits. But that doesn' mean the black population always turns out in large enough nunbers to be decisive, one reason Kerry couldn't win it but Obama could.
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pa2011
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2012, 08:49:48 PM »

Really don't understand how you can emphatically say Henrico "is gone." -- Albeit, in a non-presidential year, GOP Gov. Bob McDonnell carried Henrico in 2009 with 56 percent of the vote. In 2006 -- a big Democratic year -- Henrico narrowly went for Republican George Allen over Democrat Jim Webb in the Senate race.

It all really does depend on turnout in the African-American community. The white population remains very conservative in Henrico.
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