2008 Election Game: Campaign Thread

[Lumine]

Hmmmm...  It seems JulioMadrid hasn't been in the forum for about twenty days. I know he was supposed to be travelling in Brazil, but how long did he say he would be out? A month?

[tmthforu94]

Hmmmm...  It seems JulioMadrid hasn't been in the forum for about twenty days. I know he was supposed to be travelling in Brazil, but how long did he say he would be out? A month?

He said it would be about a month.

[Niemeyerite]

Here I am again!

1- Do you want to continue this?

2- Now that BMontley has been banned... Should another poster take his place as Mitch Daniels and name two replacements to the Senate, should I appoint two or should we kee Hostettler and  Skillman (or only one of them?)?

[Maxwell]

Let's make sure who is still in on this, but I kind of want to continue this.

[Sec. of State Superique]

My productivity will be awfull for some time. But lets keep it up with this

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

I'm still in.

[tmthforu94]

Yay! Welcome back, Julio. You have been missed!!!

I'd like to continue, though I'll be away for the next ten days. We could correspond via PM though if you'd like on certain policy compromises and such.

[Lumine]

I'm still in as Gingrich, but I'm willing to take Daniels as well if nobody wants him.

[Niemeyerite]

What's your opinion on the Daniels' issue? Are you OK with Skillman and Hostettler in the Senate or should we have 2 other Senators? Someone has to appoint replacements for Lincoln, Konrad and Bingaman, too. But I suppose no one will play as Richardson or Hoeven (Jerry will play as Beebe, so he has the right to name a replacement IIRC). I was thinking about Hoeven naming himself and Richardson giving Ben Luján or Dianne Dennish the Senate seat (boring option), what do you think? Does the law in NDallow Hoeven to do such a thing?

Thanks!

[Senator Spiral]

I'm still part of this. The senators that Bmotley picked are fine if you ask me, let's just keep moving on with the whole thing.

[tmthforu94]

Well, if you want MY opinion, I think Daniels picking Hostettler was extremely unrealistic, as the two aren't necessarily from the same circles within the IN GOP. I think Dan Coats would have been a safe pick by Daniels - you know I'm being honest about this, as I am NOT a Coats fan.

[JerryArkansas]

I'm still in this and I think Bebbe would appoint either Dustin McDaniel or Mike Ross.

[Niemeyerite]

Well, if you want MY opinion, I think Daniels picking Hostettler was extremely unrealistic, as the two aren't necessarily from the same circles within the IN GOP. I think Dan Coats would have been a safe pick by Daniels - you know I'm being honest about this, as I am NOT a Coats fan.

I know. Skillman is not a problem for me, but Daniels picking a loser who has became a libertarian... Too unrealistic. But it could make the game funnier! We already have Greens, Democrats, Independents, Republicans and even one Constitutionalist in the Congress, so why not a libertarian? It's an option, but I'd still prefer Lumine to appoint someone else and run as Mitch Daniels in 2012.

[Sec. of State Superique]

Can I be Herman Cain? Nader won't run in 2012. Imagine a Green Primary O.O! Dennis Kucinich vs Jill Stein vs Gary Johnson(why not?) vs Jesse Jackson (who cares?!). I could be Jerry Brown but running in 2012 for President would be ridiculous!

[JerryArkansas]

Bump

[Lumine]

Well, if you want MY opinion, I think Daniels picking Hostettler was extremely unrealistic, as the two aren't necessarily from the same circles within the IN GOP. I think Dan Coats would have been a safe pick by Daniels - you know I'm being honest about this, as I am NOT a Coats fan.

I know. Skillman is not a problem for me, but Daniels picking a loser who has became a libertarian... Too unrealistic. But it could make the game funnier! We already have Greens, Democrats, Independents, Republicans and even one Constitutionalist in the Congress, so why not a libertarian? It's an option, but I'd still prefer Lumine to appoint someone else and run as Mitch Daniels in 2012.

To be honest, I want to run as Gingrich in 2012, I had enough of Daniels in the 2012 Game... Still, if I end up becoming Daniels, Skillman will still be appointed, but I think that a libertarian is going too far... As Tmthforu said, Coats looks like a better pick, or I could choose Marlin Stutzman.

[Niemeyerite]

Well, if you want MY opinion, I think Daniels picking Hostettler was extremely unrealistic, as the two aren't necessarily from the same circles within the IN GOP. I think Dan Coats would have been a safe pick by Daniels - you know I'm being honest about this, as I am NOT a Coats fan.

I know. Skillman is not a problem for me, but Daniels picking a loser who has became a libertarian... Too unrealistic. But it could make the game funnier! We already have Greens, Democrats, Independents, Republicans and even one Constitutionalist in the Congress, so why not a libertarian? It's an option, but I'd still prefer Lumine to appoint someone else and run as Mitch Daniels in 2012.

To be honest, I want to run as Gingrich in 2012, I had enough of Daniels in the 2012 Game... Still, if I end up becoming Daniels, Skillman will still be appointed, but I think that a libertarian is going too far... As Tmthforu said, Coats looks like a better pick, or I could choose Marlin Stutzman.

I totally forgot about this TL. Expect an update for today. And I've finally decided we will appoint Skillman and Hostettler anyway. This Forum has many libertarians, so maybe one of them wants to run a serious race with Hostettler in 2012, who knows?

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I think I will run as a far right winger Teabagger in 2012, if this continues. Allen West maybe?

[Niemeyerite]

I think I will run as a far right winger Teabagger in 2012, if this continues. Allen West maybe?

Will he run for something in 2010?

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I think I will run as a far right winger Teabagger in 2012, if this continues. Allen West maybe?

Will he run for something in 2010?

Congress, if he hasn't been elected earlier in 2008.

[Niemeyerite]

January 20th - February 28th starts now. Mr. President, the agenda is yours, you decide the size of the update, what you will do... The rest of the people, some of you may announce exploratory committees, talk about the economy, do nothing...

OOC: Will any of you want to run the RNC or DNC? We can play without them, but in terms of electing candidates those are the most powerful positions. And do you think we should create some kind of "INC"? IMHO, we should if Bloomberg decides to create a party. Independents are by definition no members of any party, but now we have them running the country... It's a weird situation.


January 3rd, 2009

Nancy Pelosi keeps her job as Speaker, while Harry Reid remains as Majority leader in the Senate.
Republicans have decided their leader in the House will be Eric Cantor, and John Cornyn in the Senate.
Independents have chose to form their own Caucus, which will be headed by Earl Pomeroy. In the Senate, their leader will be Chris Daggett.
Green leader in the House will be Marcy Kaptur.
Phil Roe decides to join the GOP Caucus in the House but won't change his affiliation. In fact, Constitutionalists got a 2nd member in the House, after independent Robert Cluck decided to join Phil Roe. Cluck will also caucus with republicans.
Travis Childers (D-MS), John McHugh (R-NY) and Connie Mack (R-FL) become independents.
Peter King (R-NY) will remain a republican and John Boccieri (D-OH) and Steve Sarvi (D-MN) democrats, despite rumors that they would switch to independent.
John Hostettler (L-IN) and Betty Skillman (R-IN) join the Senate. Both will caucus with republicans, so independents lose 2 Senate seats.
Ben Luján Sr. (D-NM) and Dustin McDaniel (D-AR) take Bingaman and Lincoln's job, while Jon Hoeven (R-ND) appoints himself, making republicans gain one seat from democrats. That means 3 more seats for republicans than they were expecting... Good news for John Cornyn!
_________________________________________

January 20th, 2009

Bloomberg sworn in!

Evan Bayh becomes first independent VP

_________________________________________

January 24th, 2009

PRP poll (approval/disapproval polls don't make sense):

Do you have a positive or negative opinion of Michael Bloomberg?

Positive 63%
Negative 23%
DK 14%

Among democrats:
Positive 52%
Negative 40%
DK 8%

Among independents:
Positive 87%
Negative 3%
DK 10%

Among republicans:
Positive 58%
Negative 23%
DK 19%

Do you have a positive or negative opinion of Evan Bayh?

Positive 73%
Negative 9%
DK 18%

Generic ballot:

Democrat 37%
Independent 33%
Republican 22%
Green 4%
Constitution 2%
Libertarian 2%

Hyphotetical polling:

Republican primaries:

George Pataki 17%
Newt Gingrich 12%
Chuck Hagel 10%
Mitt Romney 8%
Ron Paul 6%
Mitch Daniels 4%
Eric Cantor 4%
Undecided/Other 39%

Democratic primary:

Barack Obama 23%
Hillary Clinton 16%
Patty Murray 12%
Mark Warner 4%
Blanche Lincoln 3%
John Edwards 3%
Joe Biden 3%
Mike Beebe 1%
Undecided 35%

CMN will have an interview with President Bloomberg next week. What will be his first measure as President? Will he take on gun control now that democrats have huge majorities both in the House and the Senate? What's his plan to give new life to the economy [what happened in October, 2008 IRL happens in December in this TL, so you decide what to do, Isaac. I will have an update about the economy today or tomorrow]. Will he close Guantanamo? What about Health Care?

[Maxwell]

Scarborough Announces Explatory Committee for U.S. Senate seat!



Media Commentator and Former Congressman Joe Scarborough announces look

"I will be fading out of the Morning Joe program for a while, and the reason is that I may not be here much longer. I have looked at the way this country has been going, our economic outlook is not getting any stronger, and I believe we need a reasonable voice. I was a congressman, you know, and I think that set of skills along with being in the private sector make me qualified for that position."

January 20th - 26th, 2009:
Set up interviews with potential campaign advisers
Build up political staff
Meetings with Wealthy Florida Donors
Meeting with Florida House Speaker Marco Rubio

January 27th - February 2nd, 2009:
Meeting with Republican State Legislature in Florida
Finish up The Last Best Hope
Meeting with Governor Charlie Crist
Appearance on Hardball with Chris Matthews
Appearance on Real Time with Bill Maher

February 3rd, 2009 - February 9th, 2009:
Continue Campaign Staffing
Start Internal Polling
Meetings with wealthy donors outside of Florida
Meetings with MSNBC heads concerning Morning Joe contract
Appearance on Hannity
Appearance on The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer

Internal Poll Results

Republican Primary (with Jeb Bush)
Former Governor Jeb Bush: 45%
Attorney General Bill McCollum: 14%
Majority Leader Adam Hasner: 10%
Senator George LeMieux: 8%
Former Congressman Joe Scarborough: 6%
Former Speaker Marco Rubio: 3%
Former Senator Bob Smith: 0%
Undecided: 14%

Republican Primary (without Jeb Bush)
Attorney General Bill McCollum: 22%
Senator George LeMieux: 19%
Majority Leader Adam Hasner: 15%
Former Congressman Joe Scarborough: 13%
Former Speaker Marco Rubio: 5%
Former Senator Bob Smith: 1%
Undecided: 25%

Head to Heads:
Jeb Bush 55% - Generic Democrat 38%
Bill McCollum 46% - Generic Democrat 42%
Adam Hasner 45% - Generic Democrat 40%
George LeMieux 43% - Generic Democrat 38%
Joe Scarborough 47% - Generic Democrat 41%
Marco Rubio 42% - Generic Democrat 41%
Bob Smith 37% - Generic Democrat 40%

February 10th-16th, 2009:
Meeting with Jeb Bush, George W. Bush
Interviewing possible Campaign Managers
Beefing up Scarborough For Senate Website
Beefing up Policy Chops
Stumping in Tampa, Florida

February 17th-28th, 2009:
Appearance on Fox & Friends
Stumping on Conservative values in Jacksonville, Florida
Focus Groups on possible ads
Organizing campaign routes
Fundraiser in Miami, Florida
Announcing Exploratory Committee in Pensacola Florida

Joe Scarborough Favorables

Among Moderate Republicans
Favorable: 34%
Unfavorable: 16%
Not Sure: 50%

Among Conservative Republicans[
Favorable: 22%
Unfavorable: 30%
Not Sure: 48%

Overall
Favorable: 26%
Unfavorable: 26%
Not Sure: 48%

[Niemeyerite]

Wow, I wasn't expecting that. Scarborough will certainly improve the game

[Oldiesfreak1854]

I'm still in as Jim Ryan and Pete Hoekstra, too.

[Maxwell]

Kucinich announces Green Budget!



"Our future economic outlook is not good, and I believe we are going to need to make massive changes in order to combat that economic downplay. That's why I am pushing forward the Green Budget, which will raise taxes on the highest brakcet, cut out loopholes for the wealthy, build up green infrastructure, and put significantly more money into our schools."

January 20th- February 27th, 2009
Putting Finishing touches on the Green Budget
News Show tour to discuss Budget
Talk to campaign staffers about possible Gubernatorial or Senate run in 2010
Meetings with Green Leaders in Ohio
Congressional Duties

The Green Budget

• Raise the Top Corporate Tax rate to 50%

$0 - $250,000 - 0%
$250,000 - $1,000,000 - 8%
$1,000,000 - $3,000,000 - 15%
$3,000,000 - $10,000,000 - 28%
$10,000,000 - $25,000,000 - 40%
$25,000,000 - Onwards - 50%

• Raise the Income Tax rate to 50%, but only for millionaires

$0 - $25,000 - 0%
$25,000 - $75,000 - 10%
$75,000 - $150,000 - 17.5%
$150,000 - $300,000 - 30%
$300,000 - $1,000,000 - 42.5%
$1,000,000 - Onwards - 50%

• Cut all loopholes that would only affect those making $250,000 or more
• Cut the Military down to Pre-Iraq War levels, adjusted for inflation
• Increase Education budget by $500 Billion
• Increase infrastructure that helps the enviorment
• Increase funding for subsidies for Wind and Solar power
• Introduce Medicare for All in order to lower costs for everybody
• Introduce the Carbon Tax
• Repeal the Bush Tax Cuts on everything not already addressed