Opinion of Oldiesfreak1854

[tmthforu94]

I've always enjoyed interacting with him, personally. FF

[Simfan34]

You guys don't know anything about history, do you?

Let's take a look at the 1972 results. Democratic nominee, a socialist HP George McGovern lost anywhere except of the racist Solid South. Meanwhile, Massachusetts (Charles Sumner's state!) gave Richard Nixon (Lincoln's heir) his best result.

D.C. voted for McGovern, because local Blacks don't know history as well.

I'm confused.

[Vote UKIP!]

FF.

I've been on the boards for over a year, and no one has asked if I were an FF or HP.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I've been on the boards for over a year, and no one has asked if I were an FF or HP.

[Speed of Sound]

I've been on the boards for over a year, and no one has asked if I were an FF or HP.

It took me four years to get one, IIRC/am using the search function correctly. When you're less controversial, then it's sort of at the whim of the poll makers, who are just a handful. It's usually a good thing to not have an early one, that probably isn't a good indication (speaking only generally).

[Antonio the Sixth]

I think I got two, and I've been here for nearly 4 years.

[Vote UKIP!]

I've been on the boards for over a year, and no one has asked if I were an FF or HP.

It took me four years to get one, IIRC/am using the search function correctly. When you're less controversial, then it's sort of at the whim of the poll makers, who are just a handful. It's usually a good thing to not have an early one, that probably isn't a good indication (speaking only generally).

Maybe I need make a few troll posts.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Why don't you just read the link instead of criticizing?  And as for the Bill Bennett quote, he was being sarcastic.

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Who are you? What are you? It's not possible, even for the internet standards, someone can be that hopelessly stupid. Please tell me you're just trying (and failing) to be a funny troll. Otherwise, I will lost all remaining (and there's little) faith in humanity, science and nature combined. I refuse to believe the nature produced something like you. This world is already badly f**ked up but, for the love of God, there must be some limits!

Your posts causes my brain cells to die, slowly and in unspeakable pain. You are a monster, a villain but, please, at least don't be a sincere monster.

The guy who says the Southern Strategy was all about attracting pro-Civil Rights southerners? LOL

But it's true.  You all have just accepted revisionist history hook, line, and sinker, and that includes a lot of Republicans.

Ahaha oh Christ you're literally a moron.

Facts are a stubborn thing, my friends.  Just because they don't support your side doesn't mean you should shoot the messenger.

How about you start acquainting yourself with the facts before posting? That'd be a hell of a progress.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

The guy who says the Southern Strategy was all about attracting pro-Civil Rights southerners? LOL

But it's true.  You all have just accepted revisionist history hook, line, and sinker, and that includes a lot of Republicans.  And not all Southern Democrats were racists or segregationists.

Ignoring Oldiesgreak's balant trolling, this is actually a frequently overlooked issue. There were prominent Southern Democratic politicians that espoused pro-civil rights positions, such as Jim Folsom or Sid McMath. And there were prominent Southern Democrats that started their careers not as segregationists, but later switched positions out of political opportunism. Beside an obvious example of George Wallace, Orval Faubus comes to mind. 

[Niemeyerite]

I think I got two, and I've been here for nearly 4 years.

2'5 years here, and I haven't got any.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

I think I got two, and I've been here for nearly 4 years.

2'5 years here, and I haven't got any.

My last was like a year ago. I'm here for over 3 years now.

[© tweed]

His Michigan avatar disproves my early suspicions of him being a racist, for he is a Yankee Republican.

yep I am sure there are no racists in Michigan.  there certainly is no icky racial history to speak of.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

The guy who says the Southern Strategy was all about attracting pro-Civil Rights southerners? LOL

But it's true.  You all have just accepted revisionist history hook, line, and sinker, and that includes a lot of Republicans.  And not all Southern Democrats were racists or segregationists.

Ignoring Oldiesgreak's balant trolling, this is actually a frequently overlooked issue. There were prominent Southern Democratic politicians that espoused pro-civil rights positions, such as Jim Folsom or Sid McMath. And there were prominent Southern Democrats that started their careers not as segregationists, but later switched positions out of political opportunism. Beside an obvious example of George Wallace, Orval Faubus comes to mind. 

I realize there were some Democrats, Southern or otherwise, who supported civil rights (Estes Kefauver comes to mind as an examplenof a pro-civil rights Southern Democrat.)  When did Wallace and/or Faubus "become" segregationists if they didn't start that way?  I know Wallace had a change of heart after the assassination attempt on him, but that doesn't really answer my question.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

The guy who says the Southern Strategy was all about attracting pro-Civil Rights southerners? LOL

But it's true.  You all have just accepted revisionist history hook, line, and sinker, and that includes a lot of Republicans.  And not all Southern Democrats were racists or segregationists.

Ignoring Oldiesgreak's balant trolling, this is actually a frequently overlooked issue. There were prominent Southern Democratic politicians that espoused pro-civil rights positions, such as Jim Folsom or Sid McMath. And there were prominent Southern Democrats that started their careers not as segregationists, but later switched positions out of political opportunism. Beside an obvious example of George Wallace, Orval Faubus comes to mind. 

I realize there were some Democrats, Southern or otherwise, who supported civil rights (Estes Kefauver comes to mind as an examplenof a pro-civil rights Southern Democrat.)  When did Wallace and/or Faubus "become" segregationists if they didn't start that way?  I know Wallace had a change of heart after the assassination attempt on him, but that doesn't really answer my question.

Wallace started his career was Folsom's protege and in 1958 he ran for Governor as a moderate against KKK-backed John Patterson, while having NAACP endorsement. I guess these two Wallace's quotes sums it up well:

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As of Orval Faubus, he used to be a close McMath ally and his early career he actually espoused integrationist views. Of course he sold out like Wallace in order to survive in the Dixie politically.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

The guy who says the Southern Strategy was all about attracting pro-Civil Rights southerners? LOL

But it's true.  You all have just accepted revisionist history hook, line, and sinker, and that includes a lot of Republicans.  And not all Southern Democrats were racists or segregationists.

Ignoring Oldiesgreak's balant trolling, this is actually a frequently overlooked issue. There were prominent Southern Democratic politicians that espoused pro-civil rights positions, such as Jim Folsom or Sid McMath. And there were prominent Southern Democrats that started their careers not as segregationists, but later switched positions out of political opportunism. Beside an obvious example of George Wallace, Orval Faubus comes to mind. 

I realize there were some Democrats, Southern or otherwise, who supported civil rights (Estes Kefauver comes to mind as an examplenof a pro-civil rights Southern Democrat.)  When did Wallace and/or Faubus "become" segregationists if they didn't start that way?  I know Wallace had a change of heart after the assassination attempt on him, but that doesn't really answer my question.

Wallace started his career was Folsom's protege and in 1958 he ran for Governor as a moderate against KKK-backed John Patterson, while having NAACP endorsement. I guess these two Wallace's quotes sums it up well:

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As of Orval Faubus, he used to be a close McMath ally and his early career he actually espoused integrationist views. Of course he sold out like Wallace in order to survive in the Dixie politically.

I don't think Wallace necessarily started out as an integrationist, but he used support for segregation to get ahead politically.

[Maxwell]

I haven't seen an HP yet, so FF.

Nice enough person, even though his sigs stink of obnoxious and absurd.

[CountryRoads]

Still very much a FF. Though, I do dislike his partisanship.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

He's been junking up Torie's board lately.......FF

[CountryRoads]

FF.

I've been on the boards for over a year, and no one has asked if I were an FF or HP.

No one's asked me either, but i've only been here for a few months.

[Oakvale]

i've only been here for a few months.

Riiiiiiiiiiight.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

He's been junking up Torie's board lately.......FF

Interesting reversal of where you stood earlier.  Are you flip-flopping?

[Cobbler]

Neutral. I've never had any problems with him.

He seems to be overly concerned with having people think of him as a RINO/Yankee/Rockefeller Republican, despite having the positions of a pretty standard conservative from what I've seen.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Starting to think he's a sock.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

Neutral. I've never had any problems with him.

He seems to be overly concerned with having people think of him as a RINO/Yankee/Rockefeller Republican, despite having the positions of a pretty standard conservative from what I've seen.

Well, I have quite a dislike and disdain for the South because of my emphasis on equality, which is why I consider myself the conservative equivalent of a Yankee Republican.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

He's been junking up Torie's board lately.......FF

Interesting reversal of where you stood earlier.  Are you flip-flopping?

Even HP's do FF things.