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[Franzl]

Guys, I fear Illinois was stolen too.

http://www.eslbec.org/11_2012/accum.html

[Franzl]

Guys, I fear Illinois was stolen too.

http://www.eslbec.org/11_2012/accum.html

Vermont might be too, I think... Burlington (Chittenden 6-3) had 2839 votes for O'Fraudo and 264 votes for Saint Mittens; and given that white people never vote for the black muslim socialist, there must have been a bunch of black voters from Chicago Machine Politics who invaded Burlington! That and those Buddhists...

Terrible

Is a fair election to much to ask for?

[Franzl]

So just exclude the nearly 100% black precincts? Yeah, that'd sure make elections fair.

[Franzl]

It's certainly plausible. Does anyone really think that these areas went 100% for Obama? If you look at the exit polls, you see actual self-identified liberals who voted for Romney and conservatives who voted for Obama. And yet these areas are 100% unified?

Even if it's not literal fraud, it's defacto fraud. Because the only explanation for such overwhelming homogeneity in the vote, other then fraud, is tribal bloc voting that is fundamentally at odds with democracy.

I'm sure you have no problem with King County, TX &ilk.

That's right. Even if said votes were excluded, TX would still have gone Romney. Whereas tribal block voting(and probably fraud on top of that) were responsible for swinging Penn, Ohio, Virginia and Florida to Barack Hussein Obama.

Impressive doublethink you have going on there.

He's probably 13 years old and in middle school.

[Franzl]

So just exclude the nearly 100% black precincts? Yeah, that'd sure make elections fair.

I'm not calling for them to be excluded from democracy, they've excluded themselves from it. Democracy is by definition competitive.

a.) It's perfectly competitive. People were given a choice between 2 candidates (excluding whoever else might have been on the ballot) and an overwhelming majority thought it was in their interests to support the Democrat over the Republican. This also happens to be true. There's nothing Republicans offer that could possibly be in their interests (or in the interests of 90%+ of the population.)

b.) Even going by your (incorrect) understanding of competitiveness, what's your exact definition? Does a group exclude themselves from democracy only if they vote 90%+ for a candidate? Or 80%+? Where do you draw the line?

[Franzl]

It's certainly plausible. Does anyone really think that these areas went 100% for Obama? If you look at the exit polls, you see actual self-identified liberals who voted for Romney and conservatives who voted for Obama. And yet these areas are 100% unified?

Even if it's not literal fraud, it's defacto fraud. Because the only explanation for such overwhelming homogeneity in the vote, other then fraud, is tribal bloc voting that is fundamentally at odds with democracy.

I'm sure you have no problem with King County, TX &ilk.

That's right. Even if said votes were excluded, TX would still have gone Romney. Whereas tribal block voting(and probably fraud on top of that) were responsible for swinging Penn, Ohio, Virginia and Florida to Barack Hussein Obama.

Impressive doublethink you have going on there.

Where is the doublethink? It's a statistical fact.

I think the White evangelical vote should be excluded from Texas totals. After all, they have a "tribe mentality", attempting to ram their sick ideology down the throats of the rest of the country.

[Franzl]

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Who are you decide what is and what is not a legitimate reason to vote one way or the other? Why is individualism necessary to identify what political candidate's policies are more in your interest than the alternative?

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What would abortion laws have to do with the problems that the black community faces? And what exactly does "protecting marriage" mean to you? Illegalizing divorce?

So now the minimum wage is responsible for higher than average unemployment among African Americans? I thought it was their reduced mental capacity and being lazy....encouraged by their herd mentality? Which is it?

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What on Earth does this mean? That legislatures should declare the results of any precinct invalid that exceeds a certain percentage for a particular candidate? LOL.

[Franzl]

Those are some top-notch debating skills you've got there, Mr Rockingham.

Indeed, he even puts J.J. to shame.

[Franzl]

Those are some top-notch arguments you've got there, Mr Rockingham.

Sigh. I'll try one more time:

SERIOUSLY BRUZ!?

Or do I need to state outright that I'm parodying the lunatics who've taken over a good chunk of the USA?

"Romney/Ryan Rill Rin Rassachussets!" signing out.

Well, how is one supposed to know over the Internet? Assuming you don't, in fact, believe what you were saying.....there are so many people who do.

And people like that don't particularly surprise me on an American political forum.