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« on: November 21, 2012, 04:18:58 PM »

"My prediction wasn't wrong, the results were wrong."
Ooh, classy.
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2012, 08:34:16 AM »

It's certainly plausible. Does anyone really think that these areas went 100% for Obama? If you look at the exit polls, you see actual self-identified liberals who voted for Romney and conservatives who voted for Obama. And yet these areas are 100% unified?

Even if it's not literal fraud, it's defacto fraud. Because the only explanation for such overwhelming homogeneity in the vote, other then fraud, is tribal bloc voting that is fundamentally at odds with democracy.

I'm sure you have no problem with King County, TX &ilk.
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2012, 11:41:42 AM »

It's certainly plausible. Does anyone really think that these areas went 100% for Obama? If you look at the exit polls, you see actual self-identified liberals who voted for Romney and conservatives who voted for Obama. And yet these areas are 100% unified?

Even if it's not literal fraud, it's defacto fraud. Because the only explanation for such overwhelming homogeneity in the vote, other then fraud, is tribal bloc voting that is fundamentally at odds with democracy.

I'm sure you have no problem with King County, TX &ilk.
That's right. Even if said votes were excluded, TX would still have gone Romney. Whereas tribal block voting(and probably fraud on top of that) were responsible for swinging Penn, Ohio, Virginia and Florida to Barack Hussein Obama.

Impressive doublethink you have going on there.
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2012, 12:06:15 PM »

So just exclude the nearly 100% black precincts? Yeah, that'd sure make elections fair.
I'm not calling for them to be excluded from democracy, they've excluded themselves from it. Democracy is by definition competitive.

a.) It's perfectly competitive. People were given a choice between 2 candidates (excluding whoever else might have been on the ballot) and an overwhelming majority thought it was in their interests to support the Democrat over the Republican. This also happens to be true. There's nothing Republicans offer that could possibly be in their interests (or in the interests of 90%+ of the population.)

b.) Even going by your (incorrect) understanding of competitiveness, what's your exact definition? Does a group exclude themselves from democracy only if they vote 90%+ for a candidate? Or 80%+? Where do you draw the line?
a)False. Their culture deprives them of the individualism and critical thinking necessary for genuinely free decision making.

Mr Rockingham, you need to veil your racism better.

And theirs plenty that Republicans could do. Eliminate the abortion that is shredding untold numbers of black babies. Eliminate the minimum wage and other regulations that are hindering their access to employment. Protecting marriage, which is under threat in the black community more then anywhere else.

None of those are things that would help the black community.

b)That's for legislatures to decide. But I'm pretty sure 100% is past the cutoff point.
And when would the cut-off be? Would a precinct that votes 100% for one candidate be excluded from the next election? After the vote count is finished but before it is certified? What criteria would it need to meet to regain its voting rights? Or would it be permanently out?
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2012, 12:10:17 PM »

Those are some top-notch arguments you've got there, Mr Rockingham.
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2012, 12:41:00 PM »

Those are some top-notch arguments you've got there, Mr Rockingham.
Sigh. I'll try one more time:

SERIOUSLY BRUZ!?

Or do I need to state outright that I'm parodying the lunatics who've taken over a good chunk of the USA?

"Romney/Ryan Rill Rin Rassachussets!" signing out.

Well, how is one supposed to know over the Internet? Assuming you don't, in fact, believe what you were saying.....there are so many people who do.

And people like that don't particularly surprise me on an American political forum.
The INCREDIBLY subtle hint was in my name: "Romney/Ryan Rill Rin Rassachusetts!" Dear me, but I did think people would have picked it up as soon as I adopted that handle.

Except that, y'know, some people actually believed that.
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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2012, 12:50:25 PM »


pics or it didnt happen
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