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« Reply #50 on: November 28, 2012, 08:25:34 PM »

Electable: Christie/Bush
Ideology: Jindal/Ryan
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« Reply #51 on: November 28, 2012, 08:34:57 PM »

Does anyone care that Christie was a Bush appointed US Attorney? It's not like he was in his cabinet.

Yeah, no one except us political junkies will even know about it, much less care.

My point is that there are other political junkies who would be paid a lot of money to make sure the voters are aware of it and make out a case why it's bad for them.
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« Reply #52 on: November 28, 2012, 11:36:42 PM »

A Christie/Martinez ticket would be very formidable, though I don't know if he'd pick another governor with no foreign policy experience. Christie/Rice would be a great ticket if the base wasn't insane.

I think Rubio is a lightweight himbo right now, but he has some time to prepare.

I'd love either of those tickets, coming from a conservative Gingrich backer
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« Reply #53 on: November 29, 2012, 01:06:44 AM »

Does anyone care that Christie was a Bush appointed US Attorney? It's not like he was in his cabinet.

Yeah, no one except us political junkies will even know about it, much less care.

My point is that there are other political junkies who would be paid a lot of money to make sure the voters are aware of it and make out a case why it's bad for them.

Well also not everyone from the Bush Administration is bad (See: Mitch Daniels, Pre-Bush Tom Ridge), just most of them.
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« Reply #54 on: November 30, 2012, 10:49:56 PM »

Does anyone care that Christie was a Bush appointed US Attorney? It's not like he was in his cabinet.

Yeah, no one except us political junkies will even know about it, much less care.

My point is that there are other political junkies who would be paid a lot of money to make sure the voters are aware of it and make out a case why it's bad for them.

Well also not everyone from the Bush Administration is bad (See: Mitch Daniels, Pre-Bush Tom Ridge), just most of them.

I don't think being a Bush appointee is a bad thing at all.  I'm saying that a case could be made against it.

Just like a Jeb Bush candidacy could be torpedoed by his last name.
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« Reply #55 on: December 04, 2012, 06:20:42 PM »

In general, I think Jeb Bush is pretty easy to campaign against -- lots of people across the country don't really know who he is, and so the surname is toxic.
But if Hillary Clinton is the nominee, that surname strategy is kind of off the table.
I'd actually kind of dread an entire Clinton-Bush campaign, just on the basis that half the conversation would be about re-litigating every controversy that ever happened between 1988 and 2012. And, really, who wants that?
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« Reply #56 on: December 04, 2012, 06:42:06 PM »

Honestly, I don't think the Democrat bench is as formidable as people believe. I'm not scared of the Democrats, I'm scared that the Republicans will be stupid.
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« Reply #57 on: December 04, 2012, 08:01:44 PM »

Electability: Hillary Clinton (although if her whole campaign is based on her inevitable electability like last time I may not need fear her)

Ideology: Andrew Cuomo
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« Reply #58 on: December 04, 2012, 08:18:38 PM »

Electability: Chris Christie

Ideology: Rick Santorum
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« Reply #59 on: December 05, 2012, 12:16:42 AM »

Electable: Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, Brian Sandoval

Ideology: Rick Santorum, Paul Ryan, Rand Paul, Sarah Palin.
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« Reply #60 on: December 05, 2012, 02:49:20 AM »

Electability (only)

for the GOP: Clinton; maybe Warner

for the Dems: Jeb Bush; maybe Martinez

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« Reply #61 on: December 05, 2012, 07:47:24 AM »

Electability: Chris Christie, Jon Huntsman
Ideologically: Scott Walker, Paul Ryan, Jon Huntsman
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« Reply #62 on: December 05, 2012, 01:44:41 PM »

Electability: Chris Christie, Jon Huntsman
Ideologically: Scott Walker, Paul Ryan, Jon Huntsman

Jon Huntsman ideologically? What am I missing here?
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« Reply #63 on: December 05, 2012, 01:59:18 PM »

Electability: Chris Christie, Jon Huntsman
Ideologically: Scott Walker, Paul Ryan, Jon Huntsman

Jon Huntsman ideologically? What am I missing here?

Probably because the libertarians here kind of like him.
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« Reply #64 on: December 05, 2012, 10:03:27 PM »

Rubio probably, he's frightening on many levels, very talented.  Cuomo on the other side for different reasons
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« Reply #65 on: December 05, 2012, 11:11:18 PM »


Did you see his rebuttal to Obama's State of the Union speech?

I think Rubio is a lightweight himbo right now, but he has some time to prepare.

Yeah no doubt.  Check out my signature.  So much of what comes out of that guy's mouth is extremist boilerplate I just can't understand why people think he is going to be dynamite in the general.  You can't just pick ANY Hispanic guy and think that is going to solve your problem.  Anyone remember Sarah Palin?  How did that work out.


Anyway I'm giving another vote for Chris Christie... although I am d@mn curious what he would be like as president.  It would be very unfortunate if Christie and Hillary ran in the same year.

And what is this Warren talk.  Are people talking about Elizabeth Warran (D-MA)?!  Man I don't know about that in a general.  Is there a reason for any kind of fear coming from Republicans?
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« Reply #66 on: December 05, 2012, 11:28:41 PM »


I think Rubio is a lightweight himbo right now, but he has some time to prepare.

Yeah no doubt.  Check out my signature.  So much of what comes out of that guy's mouth is extremist boilerplate I just can't understand why people think he is going to be dynamite in the general.  You can't just pick ANY Hispanic guy and think that is going to solve your problem.  Anyone remember Sarah Palin?  How did that work out.

I disagree with your comparison because Marco Rubio is probably the best messenger the GOP has right now, regardless of ethnicity.  Palin, on the other hand, is one of our worst. 

I agree with you however that he might be a lightweight, but that's how we felt about Barack Obama and he's now headed into his 2nd presidential term.  Plus, Rubio will have had more experience than Obama should he choose to run in '16.   
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« Reply #67 on: December 06, 2012, 04:14:46 PM »

Ideology: Rand Paul--he is a libertarian and a Christian extremist. Which should be an oxymoron but hey it's Kentucky.

Electability: Susana Martinez

I don't see Christian extremist and Rand Paul as 1 in the same.
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« Reply #68 on: December 06, 2012, 08:47:43 PM »

Honestly, I fear Cuomo more than any nationally electable Republican at this point.
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« Reply #69 on: December 06, 2012, 08:52:47 PM »
« Edited: December 06, 2012, 08:59:57 PM by TexasDem »

Honestly, I fear Cuomo more than any nationally electable Republican at this point.

I agree. If the GOP were to nominate someone like Christie, instead of an ideologue like Rubio, I'd likely vote for their candidate over the man, who is a complete political wind-vane and opportunist.
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« Reply #70 on: December 06, 2012, 08:57:43 PM »

Honestly, I fear Cuomo more than any nationally electable Republican at this point.

I agree. If the GOP were to nominate someone like Christie, instead of an ideologue like Rubio, I'd likely vote for their candidate over him, who is a complete political wind-vane and opportunist.

Same here
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« Reply #71 on: December 07, 2012, 10:18:21 AM »

The perennial-overrated Senator from Florida terrifies me, but I think he's a lot less electable than most people realize.

Obviously, I've never liked Cuomo, but he's already disliked among the Democratic base and he would be a lightning rod if he ran.

I see a lot of people mentioning Santorum as a candidate whom they fear "ideologically." I disagree; just scanning Wikipedia for potential candidates, I see several (potentially) serious candidates who could be far worse - Brownback, Ryan, and Walker being foremost among them.
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« Reply #72 on: December 07, 2012, 10:51:56 AM »

If Christie could actually get through the Republican nominating process, I'd say him. I think he is without a doubt the strongest candidate Republicans could put up in the general election, even more so if he can smooth out some of the hard edges of his abrasiveness. But on the ideological front, he doesn't really scare me. Ryan and Santorum are probably the most terrifying ideologically (economically on the former, socially on the latter), particularly if they had both Houses of Congress.
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« Reply #73 on: December 07, 2012, 08:58:36 PM »

Christie. Too likable.
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« Reply #74 on: December 07, 2012, 09:00:31 PM »

Electability: Chris Christie

Ideology: Rick Santorum

Nailed it.
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