SENATE BILL: Order of Atlasia Act (Law'd)

[Simfan34]

I am a co-sponsor, NCYankee...

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I am a co-sponsor, NCYankee...

I must have missed that. Sorry about that.

But still, so what?
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=165180.msg3541446#msg3541446

Only the main sponsor can offer amendments that don't need sponsor feedback (unless he has a split personality or something).

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

There is practically no procedural relevance rendered unto co-sponsors.

[Franzl]

Amendment is friendly.

[Oakvale]

I'd suggest considering language to allow the Senate to strip a recipient of their Star. I can't imagine it would come up often, but it's always possible an unscrupulous President in days past could have awarded Hamilton a Star, for example.

Also very minor but I'd prefer the postnominals OSAS and OSAG, removing the brackets for purely aesthetic reasons.

I'd still vote for the bill in its current iteration, though. It's about time we have a mechanism to recognise the accomplishments of our citizens.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Sponsor Feedback: Friendly
Status: Senators have 24 hours to object to the above amendment.

[Franzl]

I propose this as a substitute:

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[Oakvale]

I propose this as a substitute:

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Fine by me although I don't see the reason for the 14 days requirement.

[Franzl]

I propose this as a substitute:

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Fine by me although I don't see the reason for the 14 days requirement.

It could be made longer, but I wouldn't want future actions to cause an earlier award to be taken away for some reason.

[Simfan34]

The substitute is friendly. I do agree with Sen. Nix's sentiments.

[Franzl]

What about something like Kalwejt's Rebellion? I'd like to have the ability to strip this award from anyone involved in those kinds of shenanigans.

Good point. Have removed the time limit.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

We have a slightly confusing situation here because of the end of the Senate and Simfan's departure. Since he offered an amendment and it was declared friendly, and thus was on the way to passage once the 24 hours on the objection period expired, the only way to prevent that would have been withdrawal or an objection. I don't see an objection, but Simfan's acceptance of Franzl's "substitute" as friendly (a meaningless judgement taking litterally since his isn't the bill's primary sponsor) could be interpreted as a desire to withdraw his and replace it with the substitute, upon further clarification that is. However, Simfan was no longer Senator when he posted that.

Therefore, Simfan's previous amendment has been passed, though I can't officially declare it as such. The best path forward would be to have that made official and then alter Franzl's amendment as necessary so as to reflect a change from the current text based off Simfan's amended version, as opposed to the previous "current" text (the text as it stood when Franzl wrote his prior to Simfan's passing). Is such an alteration required?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Sponsor Feedback: Origination
Status: Pending Completion of Previous Amendment. Once 52:40 is declared passed, the VP can call 24 hours on this one.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Amendment passed. Proceed as you will.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Ah, what about Franzl's?

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Twenty-four hour objection period.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Passed.

[Franzl]

I'm ready for a final vote.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Was it necessary for you pack of barbarians to trash the dignified format, which Simfan had started out with? How does this look?

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

LAZIES!!!!! YOU GOT ME ON MY KNEES, LAZIES!!! BEGGING WON'T YOU PLEAST GTF TO WORK!!!!

[Franzl]

I'm ready for a final vote.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I'm ready for a final vote.

[Oakvale]

I won't hold up the bill over this, but in retrospect I think the acronyms OSS and OSG work better. Not a big deal.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I'm ready for a final vote.

I am not blind, nor am I stupid. I want a response to the below item if possible, from the sponsor or perhaps one of his low paid secretaries. Or maybe even a distant relative at this rate.

Was it necessary for you pack of barbarians to trash the dignified format, which Simfan had started out with? How does this look?

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I won't hold up the bill over this, but in retrospect I think the acronyms OSS and OSG work better. Not a big deal.

Are you sure about OSS, that was the acronym for the WW2 era predecessor to the CIA, The Office of Strategic Services.