SENATE BILL: Trial, Not Turnout Amendment (Sent to the Regions)

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Nay

[Oakvale]

Nay.

[Simfan34]

Nay

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Nay

[Marokai Backbeat]

Crazy.

[Niemeyerite]

Nay

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Aye Guess

Aye (crazy)

Crazy.

Damn, I should have got the song "Crazy on You" too. Oh well, you have to prioritize.

[Marokai Backbeat]

A good old fashioned 5-5 tie. When was the last time that happened?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

We had 3-3-4 on an amendment in the AIT act, but I think we may have had 5-5 a few months ago.


Anyway this vote will end tomorrow afternoon unless a vote is changed.

[Niemeyerite]

Change to Abstain. Let this pass, it isn't that bad

[Oakvale]

Nix, if you were to change your vote to Nay I'd be willing to accept your suggestion as a compromise.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

It is now failing 4-5-1 by my count. The vote will end at the expiration of time tomorrow afternoon or sooner if someone changes to Nay and I can get on before noon tomorrow to end it.

[Oakvale]

When the vote ends I will be introducing the following compromise that I hope most if not all of us can get behind.

We can change the language about "80%", I made it a percentage for instsance when we're missing Senators but I wouldn't have a problem with making it simply 8 out of 10 so we don't end up with a situation where impeachment requires 3.7 Senators and so on.

I'm obviously willing to make the threshold 90% / 9 out of 10 Senators if that's the minimum that would be acceptable to a majority of Senators, but naturally I want to make the requirement relatively lax since that's how the original amendment was written.

I'd also like to note how proud I am to have put a comma in the title.

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Vote on the Passage of Amendment 52:37:

Aye (4): Franzl, HagridOfTheDeep, Marokai Blue and NC Yankee
Nay (5): Averroës Nix, Ben, Oakvale, Simfan and Snowstalker
Abstain (1): JulioMadrid

With time having expired at 05:52:38 pm on January 04, 2012, the vote tally is as follows and the Vice President can declare it as having thus failed.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Passage of the amendment has failed.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Sponsor Feedback: Origination
Status: The VP may now offer 24 hours for objections.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Senators have twenty-four hours to object.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I guess I object, I'm concerned about the possibility of poll-hacking.  Unfortunately, it has happened in the past, IIRC and could certainly happen with something this high-profile.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

For a public poll, X?  Every voter posts their vote, which decreases my concern.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

For a public poll, X?  Every voter posts their vote, which decreases my concern.

Ah, I misunderstood, my bad.  Objection withdrawn.

[Barnes]

In principle, I don't have a real problem with the compromise.  My preferred system would be to give the Senate full impeachment powers, with the addition of a recall mechanism in the Constitution, but for the sake of consensus, I'll hold off on that.

[Barnes]

On the other hand, I am still interested in the possibility of recall elections.  How does this sound, Oakvale?

Amendment:

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[Marokai Backbeat]

In principle, I don't have a real problem with the compromise.  My preferred system would be to give the Senate full impeachment powers, with the addition of a recall mechanism in the Constitution, but for the sake of consensus, I'll hold off on that.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Green Georgia versus Red Ohio.


Pass the popcorn! Oh I forget, I quit eating once it gets passed 10:30 PM. Nevermind!

[Marokai Backbeat]

Oh don't worry, I can handle Barnes.