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« on: December 11, 2012, 06:09:11 AM »

Mike Huckabee does run in 2012 after all, seeing all the polls showing him in the top two, and wins Iowa by colossal margins. Mitt Romney wins in New Hampshire and it becomes a Hillary v. Obama race, Huckabee eventually pulls out with a victory. How does he do against Obama, could he win?
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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2012, 02:58:32 PM »

It will be tight over the summer, but his support of Akin and Mourdock will tank him. Polarization of electorate keeps the map from spilling into LBJ territory.


Obama: 379 ~53% PV
Huckabee: 159 ~ 45% PV
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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2012, 03:13:54 PM »

Huckabee is a horrible pick, but Grassley would be an even worse running mate.  I like him, but he's too old and he wouldn't add much to the campaign.  The image of an uber-christian southerner and an "old white guy" wouldn't be very flattering to the Republicans.

Romney made a good choice when he went with Ryan because he's a young, articulate guy who is known more for his position on economic issues than social issues.

Joe Biden would have eaten Grassley alive in their debate.
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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2012, 04:39:41 PM »

It will be tight over the summer, but his support of Akin and Mourdock will tank him. Polarization of electorate keeps the map from spilling into LBJ territory.


Obama: 379 ~53% PV
Huckabee: 159 ~ 45% PV

I admit that Akin and Mourdock is a pretty big thing to overlook, but I did overlook that. Huckabee's original charisma gets torn apart, and that's probably accurate.

However, Biden could attack Ryan because Ryan was chock full of talking points but had no experience or specifics. Grassley could've combated him more on an issues level. I think Grassley would've made it out of the debates alive.
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2012, 04:46:32 PM »

^In the media war/narrative, it's certainly true the Biden/Ryan debate stopped the bleeding, if you will, but I reject the notion that a different VP candidate would have changed things in any meaningful or even apparent way. For one thing, there's the possibility that the first Huckabee/Obama debate isn't a huge loss for Obama as the Romney/Obama debate was. It probably would have been a tie.
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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2012, 04:49:23 PM »

It will be tight over the summer, but his support of Akin and Mourdock will tank him. Polarization of electorate keeps the map from spilling into LBJ territory.


Obama: 379 ~53% PV
Huckabee: 159 ~ 45% PV
I think if O can take AZ and MO, he can take GA too.
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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2012, 04:53:21 PM »

It will be tight over the summer, but his support of Akin and Mourdock will tank him. Polarization of electorate keeps the map from spilling into LBJ territory.


Obama: 379 ~53% PV
Huckabee: 159 ~ 45% PV
I think if O can take AZ and MO, he can take GA too.

Huckabee has great Southern appeal, so I think he takes Georgia, probably slim though.
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« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2012, 09:08:15 PM »

Would be tight pre-Akingate, then it turns into a drubbing.
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« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2012, 10:15:05 PM »

It will be tight over the summer, but his support of Akin and Mourdock will tank him. Polarization of electorate keeps the map from spilling into LBJ territory.


Obama: 379 ~53% PV
Huckabee: 159 ~ 45% PV
I think if O can take AZ and MO, he can take GA too.

Huckabee has great Southern appeal, so I think he takes Georgia, probably slim though.
But depending on how bad Huckabee does, maybe Obama might pick up a different barely-competitive area, like Montana or the Dakotas or that last Nebraska district.
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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2013, 02:12:13 AM »

Mike Huckabee would have won over blue collar voters and his hispanic outreach would have been far better than Mitt Romney's. Thus;

Huckabee/Grassley (R) 51% 315 EV
Obama / Biden (D) 48% 223 EV

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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2013, 06:43:08 AM »

Mike Huckabee would have won over blue collar voters and his hispanic outreach would have been far better than Mitt Romney's. Thus;

Huckabee/Grassley (R) 51% 315 EV
Obama / Biden (D) 48% 223 EV



Switch Virginia and Michigan and I agree Cheesy
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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2013, 10:28:55 PM »

Mike Huckabee would have won over blue collar voters and his hispanic outreach would have been far better than Mitt Romney's. Thus;

Huckabee/Grassley (R) 51% 315 EV
Obama / Biden (D) 48% 223 EV



Switch Virginia and Michigan and I agree Cheesy

I agree, and if Huckabee wins PA, he'd likely win WI and possibly NH, although I have my doubts about the latter.
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