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Sbane
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« on: December 15, 2012, 09:01:54 PM »

We don't need to ban guns, but we need to change the gun culture. I agree banning it is not the answer because all that will do it make it more "cool" to have a gun. What needs to change is the easy access to guns those with mental issues have. We don't know if this guy could have purchased a gun on his own if he was old enough, but yet he had easy access to guns because his mom had 3. Why did she own so many? Why do so many people own guns? Was she going hunting in suburban CT? Did she really need protection in that town?

The gun culture is what needs to change, and you don't change that by banning them. Make it a faux pas to own guns. Instead of people celebrating gun culture, make it a signifier of low life culture. Maybe that can change things.  I know this is all fantasy and that it will never happen in "muhrica" but it's our only chance. The reason the crazies have such easy access to guns is not because people are selling it to them (which likely isn't that difficult to do either in this great nation of ours), but because guns are freaking everywhere. All you need to do is just steal a family members gun when you need some mass killing to do.

Also how easy would it be to catch this guy as someone with a mental problem? How socially awkward was he? Or should we ban access to guns for all socially awkward people? Lots of people are saying he was a genius...but was he in college? If not, why not? We need to understand what makes people like him snap.
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2012, 01:11:17 PM »
« Edited: December 16, 2012, 01:13:32 PM by Sbane »

Why is it most liberals seem to focus on gun control, and gloss over better mental health treatment, as the most effective solution to this problem?   They seem to hardly even mention it. 

Thank you.

Because changing the gun culture would be more effective. Many times you can't even tell if these people will snap. They may be angry, but not everyone is going to put an angry family member in a mental hospital. Better mental health care is key but it won't stop a lot of these attacks until it is too late.

By changing the gun culture I don't mean banning them. That would be counterproductive. There needs to be a societal change, not a legal change. There shouldn't be so many goddamn guns out there in easy reach of these crazies!

Of course we would just see more knife attacks. We also need to take a look at how the media covers these things. I think that is also a big reason why these people feel the need to do something so brazen as attack little children or moviegoers. They want to be famous, and the media will gladly do it for them.
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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2012, 01:24:56 PM »

Conservatives who have been pleading for the conversation to change from guns to mental healthcare, did you know Obamacare mandated all insurance plans cover mental health services? What do you think of that? Repeal it?
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