Bush takes lead in New York

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

According to new numbers released by Quinnipiac and Zogby, Bush now has a narrow lead in New York: 44%-42% in the Quinnipiac poll, 45%-40% in the Zogby.  Meanwhile, Kerry has made great strides in Mississippi, with both polls showing a dead heat at 47% to 46% in favor of Bush.

Links:

http://www.zogby.com/features/features.dbm?ID=210

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x10758.xml

[12th Doctor]

There is no way this will hold, but I would trade Mississippi for  New York any day of the week.  

[dunn]

It's April 1st you know

[Rococo4]

According to new numbers released by Quinnipiac and Zogby, Bush now has a narrow lead in New York: 44%-42% in the Quinnipiac poll, 45%-40% in the Zogby.  Meanwhile, Kerry has made great strides in Mississippi, with both polls showing a dead heat at 47% to 46% in favor of Bush.

Links:

http://www.zogby.com/features/features.dbm?ID=210

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x10758.xml

I cant find those numbers off those links......but doubtful of those are very accurate or would even hold on.  Like the person above me, I would of course trade NY for MS, but I am not planning on it.

[Gustaf]

It's April 1st you know

VERY GOOD POINT!

[dunn]

It's April 1st you know

VERY GOOD POINT!

lol

[Filuwaúrdjan]

According to new numbers released by Quinnipiac and Zogby, Bush now has a narrow lead in New York: 44%-42% in the Quinnipiac poll, 45%-40% in the Zogby.  Meanwhile, Kerry has made great strides in Mississippi, with both polls showing a dead heat at 47% to 46% in favor of Bush.

Links:

http://www.zogby.com/features/features.dbm?ID=210

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x10758.xml

Date: 1st of April 2004...

Though oddly enough the most recent poll done in Mississippi (in December I think) DID have Bush tied with a generic Democrat...

[Rococo4]

I serioulsy cant beleieve I fell for that.  I give you credit.  Good job......I was thinking about April Fools Day earlier this morning.

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

According to new numbers released by Quinnipiac and Zogby, Bush now has a narrow lead in New York: 44%-42% in the Quinnipiac poll, 45%-40% in the Zogby.  Meanwhile, Kerry has made great strides in Mississippi, with both polls showing a dead heat at 47% to 46% in favor of Bush.

Links:

http://www.zogby.com/features/features.dbm?ID=210

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x10758.xml

Date: 1st of April 2004...

Though oddly enough the most recent poll done in Mississippi (in December I think) DID have Bush tied with a generic Democrat...

I thought about something more outlandish, like Bush leading in Mass. and Kerry leading in Wyoming, but this seemed like just enough within the realm of reality to make people do a double-take.

Regarding that Mississippi poll, maybe they still await the return of the Dixiecrats??

[Gustaf]

According to new numbers released by Quinnipiac and Zogby, Bush now has a narrow lead in New York: 44%-42% in the Quinnipiac poll, 45%-40% in the Zogby.  Meanwhile, Kerry has made great strides in Mississippi, with both polls showing a dead heat at 47% to 46% in favor of Bush.

Links:

http://www.zogby.com/features/features.dbm?ID=210

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x10758.xml

Date: 1st of April 2004...

Though oddly enough the most recent poll done in Mississippi (in December I think) DID have Bush tied with a generic Democrat...

I thought about something more outlandish, like Bush leading in Mass. and Kerry leading in Wyoming, but this seemed like just enough within the realm of reality to make people do a double-take.

Regarding that Mississippi poll, maybe they still await the return of the Dixiecrats??

Yeah, it was a good one that adhered to one of the fundamental rules of lying: be precise.

[ShapeShifter]

Only in your dreams.

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

Yeah, it was a good one that adhered to one of the fundamental rules of lying: be precise.

Do you know that at the current rate of population growth, by 2015, a cheeseburger will cost $17.59?  And that every day, more than 14 million men are subjected to sexual harrassment in the workplace?  While in VietNam, John Kerry personally massacred 23 women and children in a village known only as "site 2453."  This is suppressed in the news because Kerry's bunkmate is now a billionaire with a controlling share in all of the major news networks.  Bush fathered no fewer than 9 illegitimate children between 1971 and 1977, whom he continues to bribe to keep them quiet.

Hey, this is easy!

[angus]

There is no way this will hold, but I would trade Mississippi for  New York any day of the week.  

You've been had!  Nice work beef.  

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

There is no way this will hold, but I would trade Mississippi for  New York any day of the week.  

You've been had!  Nice work beef.  

Thanks!

[Gustaf]

Yeah, it was a good one that adhered to one of the fundamental rules of lying: be precise.

Do you know that at the current rate of population growth, by 2015, a cheeseburger will cost $17.59?  And that every day, more than 14 million men are subjected to sexual harrassment in the workplace?  While in VietNam, John Kerry personally massacred 23 women and children in a village known only as "site 2453."  This is suppressed in the news because Kerry's bunkmate is now a billionaire with a controlling share in all of the major news networks.  Bush fathered no fewer than 9 illegitimate children between 1971 and 1977, whom he continues to bribe to keep them quiet.

Hey, this is easy!

That's exactly what I mean. If you're specific people will tend to believe you. It can be enormous fun sometimes, I have a reputation at school at someone who knows a lot of things, so I can often rather easily trick people into believing all sorts of things.

[angus]

an aspiring attorney?

[Gustaf]

an aspiring attorney?

Lol, no I lack the lack of morals to be an attorney, I think. And in Sweden is much more boring...

[John]

I Think Bush Has a good chance of Carring New York in November Becuse of The GOP Convetion in Late August

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Regarding that Mississippi poll, maybe they still await the return of the Dixiecrats??

Or Jimmy Carter

[ShapeShifter]

I Think Bush Has a good chance of Carring New York in November Becuse of The GOP Convetion in Late August

I live in NYC and there is NO WAY Bush is going to win NY with the polarization of this country continuing. I for one will be joining those who will be protesting his visit. The nerve of this guy to come to NYC and exploit 9-11. NYC is not republican town either.

[Rococo4]

I Think Bush Has a good chance of Carring New York in November Becuse of The GOP Convetion in Late August

I live in NYC and there is NO WAY Bush is going to win NY with the polarization of this country continuing. I for one will be joining those who will be protesting his visit. The nerve of this guy to come to NYC and exploit 9-11. NYC is not republican town either.

I hope you and all your pals to go protest.  It is going to be the final nail in Kerrys coffin when the American public sees the way this gets out of control.  Most people will probably act fine and civil (i am sure including you) but some will get out of hand and start throwing stuff at the police, over turning police cars, etc.  The American people, besides the hard core Bush haters wont like this, and it will just show how out of touch these people are, with their Bush = Hitler, and all their other garbage signs.  As F. Kerry would say "Bring It On."

If Bush cant use Sept 11 as part of his reelection campaign, then Kerry shouldnt use Vietnam.  I think some people died in that too.  

Of course Bush will not win NY.  You know that the Democrats were offered to come to NY, but refused, because they wouldnt share a city with the Republicans.  I am pretty sure you would love if they came to NY and talked about Sept 11.  That wouldnt be explotation of course, though.

[ShapeShifter]

I Think Bush Has a good chance of Carring New York in November Becuse of The GOP Convetion in Late August

I live in NYC and there is NO WAY Bush is going to win NY with the polarization of this country continuing. I for one will be joining those who will be protesting his visit. The nerve of this guy to come to NYC and exploit 9-11. NYC is not republican town either.

I hope you and all your pals to go protest.  It is going to be the final nail in Kerrys coffin when the American public sees the way this gets out of control.  Most people will probably act fine and civil (i am sure including you) but some will get out of hand and start throwing stuff at the police, over turning police cars, etc.  The American people, besides the hard core Bush haters wont like this, and it will just show how out of touch these people are, with their Bush = Hitler, and all their other garbage signs.  As F. Kerry would say "Bring It On."

If Bush cant use Sept 11 as part of his reelection campaign, then Kerry shouldnt use Vietnam.  I think some people died in that too.  

Of course Bush will not win NY.  You know that the Democrats were offered to come to NY, but refused, because they wouldnt share a city with the Republicans.  I am pretty sure you would love if they came to NY and talked about Sept 11.  That wouldnt be explotation of course, though.

My guess is that ... is going to be peaceful. This is not Seattle.

And how can a democrat exploit 9-11 that just makes ZERO sense.

Only ONE REASON, why Bush is even popular, and that is 9-11. I guess the terrorist got what they wanted. Someone who will polarize the nation and the world.

[Rococo4]

It makes perfect sense....The Democrats could come to NY and grandstand and blame everything on Bush and blame the deaths of Sept 11 on Bush.  

If you think 500,000 or more anti Bush protesters that are being held away from Madison Square Garden by police are going to remain peaceful than you havent been in enough Democratic protests.  Its fine if you want to go out and hold up signs or whatever, but dont fool yourself...you know it is going to get out of hand.

[opebo]

The more protesters there are, the better for Bush.  This kind of thing was what gave Nixon his 1972 landslide - hippy backlash.

[Beet]

During the anti-globalization protests there was a great deal of civil disobedience and a consistent presence by anarchists. You had the peaceful, lawful protestors, usually forming the majority, and you had the people trying to break into areas they weren't allowed, who got the most coverage, and then you had the anarchists. That was back in 1999-2001.

During the anti-war protests, there were only a few major ones. One in November 2002, one January 18, 2003, and the mother of all February 15, 2003. Millions of people showed up for this last protest, but there was not a significant deal of violence, as was seen in the '60s protests or the anti-globalization protests. Later on in March you had some civil disobedience with people trying to block roads but this was a tiny minority of activists. Unfortunately anarchists and radicals usually just use protests as a cover to commit crimes, and end up undermining the message of the entire thing. This time, at the Republican convention, it will be so political that Republicans will have an incentive to pay anarchists to go in and destroy property posing as convention protestors. If not the party itself at least some Bush supporters.

There are two ways such a protest could go.... peaceful, police-friendly protest, or debacle. However I think the people of New York are calm enough to handle this. They handled the blackout after all. In '77 during the blackout there were riots. In '03 even though it could have been a terror attack, the sudden return to a Hobbesian state of nature did not produce chaos. Quite remarkable.