2008 Predictions... just for the hell of it.

[MAS117]

Allen/Sanford - 223
Bayh/Warner - 315

[briancw]

I don't know if Bayh would pull Indiana that far to the left.

[Frodo]

Could somebody please tell me how to post a map!  I forgot!  I will delete this post after someone answers me...thanks!

click on this link:

https://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/evcalc.php

once you have put down your predictions for each state, and pushed the 'Update Map and EV totals' button, there is another button under it near the bottom of the page which says 'Show Map Link'.  click it.  a bubble will show up which will have the web address for your map prediction which you should copy and paste. 

let me know if you have any problems.   

[Erc]

My Random Prediction of the Day:

Voinovich/Romney (R)

vs.

Richardson/Obama (D)

[minionofmidas]

Could somebody please tell me how to post a map!  I forgot!  I will delete this post after someone answers me...thanks!

click on this link:

https://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/evcalc.php

once you have put down your predictions for each state, and pushed the 'Update Map and EV totals' button, there is another button under it near the bottom of the page which says 'Show Map Link'.  click it.  a bubble will show up which will have the web address for your map prediction which you should copy and paste. 

let me know if you have any problems.   

Interesting. I've always copy-and-pasted other people's maps and changed the code.

[jacob_101]

Thanks Frodo!

R-Pawlenty/Rice
D-Clinton/Richardson

[No more McShame]

My Random Prediction of the Day:

Voinovich/Romney (R)

vs.

Richardson/Obama (D)

Ugh, I'd actually vote for Richardson here.

[Joe Biden 2020]

My 2008 Prediction:

Rep: Mark Sanford/George Voinovich

Dem: Evan Bayh/Bill Richardson

EV: Dem 290 Rep 248

[Jake]

Now, that I had the conviction and common-sense to show two types of scenarios, I challenge a Republican to do the same.  Of course, they won't; or they'll show a farce (Hillary/ Ted "Chappaquiddick" Kennedy sweeping the floor).  Expect 10 Republicans after me to reject my "Warner/Allen" map.  They know he's formidable candidate.  At least I'm not afraid to admit that Frist or Allen would be formidable candidates.

And Guiliani would kick ass too except neither Warner or Guiliani will be nominated. Plus, Frist is the worst GOP candidate with a shot to be elected. He's Kerry with less charisma.

[Max Power]

Dem- John Kerry/ Mark Warner
Rep- John McCain/ Condi Rice
Ind- Jesse Ventura/ Angus King

With Tossups Excluded:
Kerry/ Warner- 248 EVs 46%
McCain/ Rice- 180 EVs 39%
Ventura/ King- 0 EVs 15%

[Max Power]

With Tossups Included:

Kerry/ Warner- 336 EVs 46%
McCain/ Rice- 180 EVs 39%
Ventura/ King- 23 15%

Vote splitting between Ventura and McCain enables Kerry to win Montana, Virginia, and Florida.

Vote splitting between Kerry and McCain enables Ventura to win Missouri, Colorado, and Wisconsin.

Other candidates:
Ralph Nader/ Warren Beatty (Green) - 0.4% of the vote.
Michael Badnarik/ Lance Brown (Lib.)- 0.6% of the vote.
Roy Moore/ Alan Keyes (Cons.)- 0.9% of the vote (8% in Alabama).
Others (Socialist, Prohibition, etc.)- under 0.1% of the vote.

Although no candidate recieves a popular majority, Kerry win the electoral college with narrow wins in Ohio, Montana, Virginia, New Mexico, and Iowa.

Ventura announces that he will run in 2012.

McCain resigns from senate seat, "retires" (......) from politics.

[Max Power]

Hillary Clinton/ Evan Bayh
Linda Lingle/ Rudy Guiliani

[Max Power]

This is:
Bill Richardson/ Rick Perry
Rick Santorum/ Dick Cheney

Rick Perry, after defecting to the Democratic Party to avoid a primary fight with Senator Kay Baily Hutchinson, has become a Democratic star. He easily won re-election, and delivers Texas to the Democrats. Bill Richardson, who also wins re-election, runs for president and wins the Democratic primary.

Rick Santorum, to please the lobbyists who gave money to his campaign, convinces Dick Cheney to stay as Vice President. He leads in the polls, but he makes a gaffe Reagan-style. Thinking the microphone is off, he says of the GLBT protesters who are interupting him "Damn gays!! When I become presidents, I'll kill them all!!". The audience was shocked, and so was America. He drops to last place in every state, but makes a last-minute comeback, winning a few states:

[briancw]

Isn't this like fantasy or something? I think this thread is about 2008 predictions..

[Max Power]

Isn't this like fantasy or something? I think this thread is about 2008 predictions..

What are you talking about?

[Reaganfan]

Casey Resse, stop being a shower guy. 330 EV for Kerry! LMBBO (Laugh my blue balls off)

[MAS117]

Your predictions are redicolous Casey.

[No more McShame]

Clinton/Richarson (Dem) 52% 298 EV
Frist/Pawlenty (Rep) 47% 240 EV
Everybody else <1% 0 EV (Tom Pawlenty gets an EV in MN)

[Rob]

Bredesen/Bayh vs. McCain/Frist:



Bredesen wins 287-251 in the electoral college, and 50-49 in the popular vote. This is assuming no liberal third party.

[jacob_101]

Clinton/Richarson (Dem) 52% 298 EV
Frist/Pawlenty (Rep) 47% 240 EV
Everybody else <1% 0 EV (Tom Pawlenty gets an EV in MN)

So, Richardson has enough sway as a vice president nominee to help carry NM, NV & CO...but Pawlenty doesn't have enough sway as vice president to carry MN, IA & WI???

[Max Power]

Your predictions are redicolous Casey.

Pardon me, but what do you mean by "redicolous"?

[Max Power]

Casey Resse, stop being a shower guy. 330 EV for Kerry! LMBBO (Laugh my blue balls off)

Maybe you should take a shower, you retarded nicompoop. And don't tell us why your balls are blue.

[Secular Politico]

I'm not going to offer any "fantasy" predictions but one thing that should be factored into all these projections is that Rick Santorum is likely to get a well deserved hiding in the 2006 mid-term elections and sent packing from Capitol Hill.     

That will kill stone dead any hopes he or his merry band of far right followers have of him appearing on the national GOP ticket in 2008. 

By '08 he will be a political has-been with his unsavoury stint as a Seantor nothing more than a bad memory for moderate and liberal politicos.

All the polls show him trailing likely Democratic challenger Bob Casey. The latest one I have seen shows Casey opening up a 15 point lead against the bigoted junior senator from Pennsylvania. 

His extremist views would be out of kilter even in a number of GOP states such as Nevada, Arizona etc. let alone Democratic trending Pennsylvania! 

Anyways I look forward to him being finally turfed out and brought to book for his obnoxious pronouncements on a whole raft of social issues, particularly on LGBT rights.   

I expect the same thing to happen to the equally bigoted but more opportunistic Mitt Romney in the Governors race in Massachusetts, providing of course he has the guts to face the voters of the state he ridiculed and insulted recently while pandering to the homophobic base of his national party.   

Like his ideological soul-mate Santorum, this should bring his White House ambitions also to a crashing halt.

Santorum and Romneys defeats and a big re-election win for Hillary in NY will be the '06 highlights for me!     

Roll on the elections....

[TomC]

Welcome to the forum! Excellent points!

Now, if you don't mind, I'm getting out of the line of fire...

[Joe Biden 2020]

I'm not going to offer any "fantasy" predictions but one thing that should be factored into all these projections is that Rick Santorum is likely to get a well deserved hiding in the 2006 mid-term elections and sent packing from Capitol Hill.

That will kill stone dead any hopes he or his merry band of far right followers have of him appearing on the national GOP ticket in 2008.

By '08 he will be a political has-been with his unsavoury stint as a Seantor nothing more than a bad memory for moderate and liberal politicos.

All the polls show him trailing likely Democratic challenger Bob Casey. The latest one I have seen shows Casey opening up a 15 point lead against the bigoted junior senator from Pennsylvania.

His extremist views would be out of kilter even in a number of GOP states such as Nevada, Arizona etc. let alone Democratic trending Pennsylvania!

Anyways I look forward to him being finally turfed out and brought to book for his obnoxious pronouncements on a whole raft of social issues, particularly on LGBT rights.

I expect the same thing to happen to the equally bigoted but more opportunistic Mitt Romney in the Governors race in Massachusetts, providing of course he has the guts to face the voters of the state he ridiculed and insulted recently while pandering to the homophobic base of his national party.

Like his ideological soul-mate Santorum, this should bring his White House ambitions also to a crashing halt.

Santorum and Romneys defeats and a big re-election win for Hillary in NY will be the '06 highlights for me!

Roll on the elections....

I happen to agree with Rick Santorum's views.  I especially love it when he and other politicians (Republicans and Democrats alike) speak out against the GLBT "lifestyle" and the murderous abortion practice.  Both are utterly despicable sins and utterly abominable, but not unforgiveable.