SENATE BILL: The Gaining Excellent Teachers (GET) Act (Law'd)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Well, anyone think of any better numbers? Anyone care to review this and see if there are any problems I missed? Should I seek assistance professionally because I am always talking to walls here?

[Mopsus]

Citizen Commentary:
Are citizens allowed to post in Senate threads? I'm not sure. Anyway, personally, I'm not a fan of making the tax code more complicated if it can be avoided. Instead I would like to see the requirements for becoming a teacher raised, and pay increased, both to reflect the stricter standards and to make becoming a teacher attractive.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

As a former Senator you should of course know that the answer is yes.


As for the tax code, my preference would be direct pay increases, hence why I shaped Clause 4 like that. The tax code provisions originated with Simfan's original text and I am hessitant to waive through a considerable change to that portion, without his okay. Now if six Senators prefer your idea (and even I do to an extent) irrespecitve of Simfan's wishes, then things will turn out to your satisfaction of course.

[Napoleon]

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[Napoleon]

Citizen Commentary:
Anyway, personally, I'm not a fan of making the tax code more complicated if it can be avoided. Instead I would like to see the requirements for becoming a teacher raised, and pay increased, both to reflect the stricter standards and to make becoming a teacher attractive.

I usually prefer to avoid working through the tax code but this is a case in which I would prefer to make an exception. Increasing teacher pay just isn't easy for the federal government to do without risking saddling the regions with an unfunded mandate. I am unlikely to support Napoleon's amendment for this reason.

I already changed my amendment.

[Mopsus]

Citizen Commentary:
Anyway, personally, I'm not a fan of making the tax code more complicated if it can be avoided. Instead I would like to see the requirements for becoming a teacher raised, and pay increased, both to reflect the stricter standards and to make becoming a teacher attractive.

I usually prefer to avoid working through the tax code but this is a case in which I would prefer to make an exception. Increasing teacher pay just isn't easy for the federal government to do without risking saddling the regions with an unfunded mandate. I am unlikely to support Napoleon's amendment for this reason.

Also, do you have any specific new requirements for certification in mind?

I won't address the first part of you post since Napoleon already changed his amendment, as he said. As for the second part, I admit that I will have to do more research since I am unfamiliar with the requirements that Atlasia currently uses, and if or how they differ from the requirements that the United States uses.

[Oakvale]

Did you pull that out of a list of generic lines to copy and paste into bill threads or something?

Yes, I have it in a notepad file along with "I understand the reasoning behind this bill, but I don't think it's a good idea and won't support it", "No objections", and so on.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Did you pull that out of a list of generic lines to copy and paste into bill threads or something?

Yes, I have it in a notepad file along with "I understand the reasoning behind this bill, but I don't think it's a good idea and won't support it", "No objections", and so on.

So you have a ton of notepad files, too? You ever have it insert triple spacing into stuff you copied and pasted from off the web?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Sponsor Feedback: Hostile (by request of Simfan)
Status: Vote to commence soon (my hope is this afternoon sometime, it is too soon right now)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Sponsor Feedback: Hostile (by request of Simfan)
Status: This amendment is now at vote, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Aye

[Napoleon]

AYE

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Abstain

[Spamage]

Nay

[Oakvale]

Nay.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Nay

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

It probably isn't worth much now, but I had voted Aye right at the last minute and I got some kind of weird error and couldn't get back on the site until after the time expired.

I would hate to lose this bill after working on it for so long (so long that its original creator is not only departed from our midst as a Senator, but has also departed period...forever! Well, as far as the forum is concerned anyway).


Vote on amendment 53:35

Aye (2): Ben and Napoleon - weird combination
Nay (3): HagridOfTheDeep, Oakvale, and Spamage.
Abstain (2): Averroës Nix and jdb

Didn't Vote (3): Franzl, JulioMadrid and NC Yankee - You people suck you know. (Yes, I do see what I did here, I am not that tired anymore. )

The amendment has not been adopted.   

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Sponsor Feedback: Hostile (out of respect for Simfan, though I actaully agree with Nix's points and anticipate voting for this).
Status: Vote to commence at the earliest possible opportunity (24 hours from the time offered).

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Sponsor Feedback: Hostile (out of respect for Simfan, though I actaully agree with Nix's points and anticipate voting for this).
Status: Senators, the above amendment is now at vote, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

[Napoleon]

Aye

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Nay

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

AYE, Because with all due respect to Simfan, some things have to be left to the locals

[Franzl]

AYE

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Aye

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Aye