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« on: January 15, 2013, 01:00:03 AM »

How come we rarely hear this issue being discussed?

Two deaf twin brothers in Belgium were euthanized by their doctor after realizing they were going blind and would be unable to see each other ever again, their physician says.

The  45-year-old men, whose names have not been made public, were legally put to death by lethal injection at the Brussels University Hospital in Jette, on Dec. 14.

The men, who were born deaf, had a cup of coffee and said goodbye to other family members before walking into hospital room together to die, their doctor told Belgian television station RTL.

“They were very happy. It was a relief to see the end of their suffering,” said Dr. David Dufour.


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/01/belgium-euthanizes-deaf-twins-going-blind/
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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2013, 03:09:54 AM »

Because at least in the US, the politics are fairly settled and no one has been trying to change the status quo the last few years.  In no state is euthanasia legal and in only three is assisted suicide legal.  Perhaps it will come back once the gay marriage issue settles down and liberals can turn their energies towards another issue.  Or perhaps some other issue will strike the liberal fancy.
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2013, 07:13:56 AM »

From the article.

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Good God, that will bring a ton of consent cases before the courts.
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2013, 07:19:21 AM »

Ultimately it was their decision and I am pleased that they were allowed to make it.
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2013, 07:35:13 AM »

Ultimately it was their decision and I am pleased that they were allowed to make it.

The idea makes me uncomfortable....but ultimately, I agree.
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2013, 07:51:23 AM »

Actually, euthanasia is the "social issue" I care more about after abortion, death penalty and gay adoption. I just can't conceive how you can deprive people who are suffering and capable of taking rational decisions from their legitimate right over their own life. That's absolutely inhumane to me.

Personally, I know that, if I were in a situation of that kind, I would PRAY to find someone with the guts to do what needs to be done.
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2013, 09:22:23 AM »

Ultimately it was their decision and I am pleased that they were allowed to make it.

This.
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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2013, 01:15:24 PM »

Ultimately it was their decision and I am pleased that they were allowed to make it.

This.

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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2013, 03:06:15 PM »

It will be the next social issue in about 15 years or so after gay marriage and the drug war are settled.
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2013, 04:04:02 PM »
« Edited: January 16, 2013, 04:06:25 PM by Nathan »

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Good God, that will bring a ton of consent cases before the courts.

Something about that just strikes me as really abject.

Yes, we'll probably have this argument at some point down the line, and I for one am dreading every minute of it. From both (inevitably oversimplified and retrenched) 'sides', actually.
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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2013, 04:19:35 PM »

The idea of extending euthanasia to both minors and dementia patients indeed is something of which I'm not a particularily great fan, but there does seem to exist quite wide support for it (unreflexive as that support might be).

Basically, what I wonder is this: what does it look like to euthanize a dementing octagenarian? I can't imagine it looks at al pretty.
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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2013, 04:38:43 PM »

I can't get too interested in this, because I plan to off myself at the appropriate time, even if a "crime," and the prosecutors can prosecute my corpse. There is a downside to euthanasia, and that is relatives may pressure one to check out, to preserve the estate. Since it is not hard to off yourself, why do we need the nanny state for this one?  Just do it, darn it!
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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2013, 04:43:18 PM »

I can't get too interested in this, because I plan to off myself at the appropriate time, even if a "crime," and the prosecutors can prosecute my corpse. There is a downside to euthanasia, and that is relatives may pressure one to check out, to preserve the estate. Since it is not hard to off yourself, why do we need the nanny state for this one?  Just do it, darn it!

Because most of us don't want to put a bullet in our head in case we fuck up and don't die, and most of us don't have the funds to pay off a shady, yet knowledgeable doctor to mix us a toxic cocktail. 
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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2013, 04:50:46 PM »

I can't get too interested in this, because I plan to off myself at the appropriate time, even if a "crime," and the prosecutors can prosecute my corpse. There is a downside to euthanasia, and that is relatives may pressure one to check out, to preserve the estate. Since it is not hard to off yourself, why do we need the nanny state for this one?  Just do it, darn it!

Because most of us don't want to put a bullet in our head in case we fuck up and don't die, and most of us don't have the funds to pay off a shady, yet knowledgeable doctor to mix us a toxic cocktail. 

How about just jumping off a high bridge?  I plan to take a massive heroin overdose myself. I want to check out on a "high" note. Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2013, 05:03:07 PM »

When I was younger I never knew why euthanasia was a big deal. Then again I thought people where talking about "Youth in Asia." Needless to say I was surprised when I found out what they were actually talking about.
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« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2013, 06:22:30 PM »
« Edited: January 16, 2013, 06:25:04 PM by Grumpy Gramps »

I can't get too interested in this, because I plan to off myself at the appropriate time, even if a "crime," and the prosecutors can prosecute my corpse. There is a downside to euthanasia, and that is relatives may pressure one to check out, to preserve the estate. Since it is not hard to off yourself, why do we need the nanny state for this one?  Just do it, darn it!

Because most of us don't want to put a bullet in our head in case we fuck up and don't die, and most of us don't have the funds to pay off a shady, yet knowledgeable doctor to mix us a toxic cocktail.  

How about just jumping off a high bridge?  I plan to take a massive heroin overdose myself. I want to check out on a "high" note. Smiley

Better make it a real massive overdose, unless feeding tubes and diapers are in your plans.  The gummit can ensure proper, effective drugs are available, that's why sometimes a "nanny state" solution ain't so bad.  Death row drugs don't fail when properly administered and with legal euthanasia better drugs will be forthcoming.....viva capitalism!
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« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2013, 10:53:11 AM »

I really don't have an opinion on this.
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