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« on: January 16, 2013, 12:17:17 AM »
« edited: January 18, 2013, 04:39:57 PM by Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel »

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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2013, 12:17:55 AM »

What does this change?
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2013, 12:18:36 AM »

FYI, this doesn't change anything - it's the same procedures we've used for years... I just think it'd be good to get this all down on "paper" (in case I for some reason don't come back as Speaker or something Wink ... plus I've been meaning to do this for a while).
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2013, 12:19:13 AM »

FYI, this doesn't change anything - it's the same procedures we've used for years... I just think it'd be good to get this all down on "paper" (in case I for some reason don't come back as Speaker or something Wink ... plus I've been meaning to do this for a while).
Tongue Answered my question.

I'm perfectly fine with this. Hopefully we don't lose you as Speaker, though!
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2013, 12:21:57 AM »

I think this is everything... can anyone think of something I missed?  And I won't be here forever. Wink
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2013, 12:24:51 AM »

I support this amendment strongly. It puts the precedent into codified law and prevents potential court cases in the future.

Why don't we make the Dean the longest serving member not currently serving as Speaker like the Senate does with the PPT (Yankee isn't Dean, Ben is, IIRC)? That way, Inks can open nominations, get elected, and someone else gets the "prestigious" position of Dean until the next Assembly begins. I don't care one way or another. I just wanted to throw that out there because it would be interesting.

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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2013, 12:29:02 AM »

I support this amendment strongly. It puts the precedent into codified law and prevents potential court cases in the future.

Why don't we make the Dean the longest serving member not currently serving as Speaker like the Senate does with the PPT (Yankee isn't Dean, Ben is, IIRC)? That way, Inks can open nominations, get elected, and someone else gets the "prestigious" position of Dean until the next Assembly begins. I don't care one way or another. I just wanted to throw that out there because it would be interesting.



At the point that the nominations are held, there is no Speaker.  Also, if we change that, it will have to be in a different section than the rest, as that would not be codifying the current precedent... but that's up to what you guys want to do.
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2013, 12:32:10 AM »

This looks good and I agree it's great to finally get these rules put down on paper.
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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2013, 12:33:08 AM »

I support this amendment strongly. It puts the precedent into codified law and prevents potential court cases in the future.

Why don't we make the Dean the longest serving member not currently serving as Speaker like the Senate does with the PPT (Yankee isn't Dean, Ben is, IIRC)? That way, Inks can open nominations, get elected, and someone else gets the "prestigious" position of Dean until the next Assembly begins. I don't care one way or another. I just wanted to throw that out there because it would be interesting.



At the point that the nominations are held, there is no Speaker.  Also, if we change that, it will have to be in a different section than the rest, as that would not be codifying the current precedent... but that's up to what you guys want to do.

Nah, it's fine the way it is. Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2013, 03:33:12 PM »

How about UC?
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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2013, 05:12:13 PM »


What is UC?
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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2013, 05:39:51 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2013, 05:55:29 PM »

I support this as well.
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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2013, 11:52:58 PM »
« Edited: January 17, 2013, 12:39:23 PM by Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel »

How is this?

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« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2013, 11:55:19 PM »
« Edited: January 17, 2013, 12:32:51 AM by TexasDem »

Looks good, but maybe you should make it say "At the beginning of a new session or upon the vacancy of said position, the Dean of the Assembly shall hold nominations for Speaker of the Assembly".

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« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2013, 12:31:40 AM »

Actually, I had entire bills in mind when it comes to UC. If someone other than the sponsor or Speaker make a motion for UC on legislation and there are no objections within 24 hours, it goes to the Governor. That's how it was done in another mock government game I played (AG). I also think it would be wise to allow the Governor (and potentially Lt. Governor if passed) to object as well.
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« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2013, 12:39:05 AM »

Actually, I had entire bills in mind when it comes to UC. If someone other than the sponsor or Speaker make a motion for UC on legislation and there are no objections within 24 hours, it goes to the Governor. That's how it was done in another mock government game I played (AG). I also think it would be wise to allow the Governor (and potentially Lt. Governor if passed) to object as well.

I'm not a fan of that.  I like having recorded votes of how people vote.  Otherwise, those touchy subjects where people are inclined to vote ABSTAIN just get passed in this way.  I see no harm in holding a vote on all legislation.  UC in the Assembly has typically only been used to fix typos or parts of the bill that don't make sense.  Hypothetically, a controversial amendment could be made through UC, but if someone objects to a UC after it's already been granted, they can just amend the bill, so there's no incentive to motion for UC on other than small things.
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« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2013, 12:47:09 AM »

Actually, I had entire bills in mind when it comes to UC. If someone other than the sponsor or Speaker make a motion for UC on legislation and there are no objections within 24 hours, it goes to the Governor. That's how it was done in another mock government game I played (AG). I also think it would be wise to allow the Governor (and potentially Lt. Governor if passed) to object as well.

I'm not a fan of that.  I like having recorded votes of how people vote.  Otherwise, those touchy subjects where people are inclined to vote ABSTAIN just get passed in this way.  I see no harm in holding a vote on all legislation.  UC in the Assembly has typically only been used to fix typos or parts of the bill that don't make sense.  Hypothetically, a controversial amendment could be made through UC, but if someone objects to a UC after it's already been granted, they can just amend the bill, so there's no incentive to motion for UC on other than small things.
Well, my thinking for it was on "easy bills" or resolutions that are completely non-controversial. Just trying to save a bit of time on it.
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« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2013, 12:39:53 PM »

Looks good, but maybe you should make it say "At the beginning of a new session or upon the vacancy of said position, the Dean of the Assembly shall hold nominations for Speaker of the Assembly".



Changed.

And Governor, I'm just not a fan of that.
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« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2013, 01:13:54 AM »

I think we're ready for a vote.  Members will vote AYE, NAY, or ABSTAIN.  This will be a 48-hour vote.

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« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2013, 02:26:29 PM »

AYE
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« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2013, 02:28:04 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2013, 04:28:52 PM »

Aye.
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« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2013, 03:05:23 AM »

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« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2013, 04:33:41 PM »

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