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« on: January 17, 2013, 08:41:34 PM »

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/01/17/chris-christie-condemns-nra-ad/

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This will serve as yet another strike against Christie with conservatives.
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2013, 08:46:44 PM »

Christie could be President if he wants to. Of course the Republican party won't allow it, lol. What a joke party.
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2013, 08:47:04 PM »

Good.
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2013, 08:50:26 PM »

Well he is only going so far. At the same news conference he refused to answer several questions over if he supports renewing the assault weapons ban, more background checks or banning large ammo clips.
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2013, 09:09:20 PM »

Here's a funny parody of the ad that pretty much shows why theirs is ridiculous:

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/e0141717e0/nra-stand-and-fight-parody
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2013, 09:36:39 PM »

Gutsy.  But I think he underestimates the extent of his party's hostility to "dissenters."
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2013, 10:05:46 PM »

Christie has been on fire lately. Good for him. We need someone visible in politics like him.
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2013, 10:16:02 PM »

That ad was really f**king awful.
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2013, 10:52:49 PM »

It's gutsy; he's banking on a more sane Republican electorate in 2016. It could really backfire on him, though that chance is just as big as a total victory.
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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2013, 11:01:58 PM »

Whay's so gutsy about it?  Assuming he does have presidential aspirations, what good does it do him to kowtow to the right wing in a fashion that guarantees that if he wins the nomination he'll lose the election?
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2013, 11:30:09 PM »

He may have learned from the experience of the Romney candidacy that "pretend to be severely conservative to win the nomination, then pretend to be blandly moderate to win the election" isn't actually such a smart strategy. If winning the nomination means winning over the "severely conservative," then Christie doesn't have a shot. He might as well play this game instead, and see if it gets any traction. If it doesn't, he can just go on being governor of New Jersey.
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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2013, 06:09:13 AM »

Whay's so gutsy about it?  Assuming he does have presidential aspirations, what good does it do him to kowtow to the right wing in a fashion that guarantees that if he wins the nomination he'll lose the election?

It's always gutsy to be the one guy who takes a stand. There's always safety in numbers, but little solo. Not saying that he's not playing some serious political chess here, but he's still a damn gutsy player.
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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2013, 05:07:22 PM »

Good for Christie, that ad was one of the most stupid things I've ever heard.
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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2013, 05:17:45 PM »

Whay's so gutsy about it?  Assuming he does have presidential aspirations, what good does it do him to kowtow to the right wing in a fashion that guarantees that if he wins the nomination he'll lose the election?

Because Christie is trying to sound bipartisan and moderate when he is neither of those descriptions. Did everyone just suddenly forget how this guy was before Sandy? He wasn't even close to being bipartisan and it was pretty much agreed that we was to the right of Romney as a pretty traditional union-busting Republican.
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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2013, 07:38:20 PM »

Whay's so gutsy about it?  Assuming he does have presidential aspirations, what good does it do him to kowtow to the right wing in a fashion that guarantees that if he wins the nomination he'll lose the election?

Because Christie is trying to sound bipartisan and moderate when he is neither of those descriptions. Did everyone just suddenly forget how this guy was before Sandy? He wasn't even close to being bipartisan and it was pretty much agreed that we was to the right of Romney as a pretty traditional union-busting Republican.

He's been pretty bipartisan. Has he been able to move the state in a more conservative direction? Yes, but he's worked alongside the Democratic legislature on many issues. I don't know where you saw this apparent consensus that he was a "traditional union-busting Republican" (which I assume would be along the lines of Walker/Kasich/etc), but I don't think it was here. In my opinion, Christie is more or less a moderate Republican in the same way that Huntsman is seen as one. Fiscally conservative (but not extreme), realistic foreign policy views, socially moderate (civil unions, environment, drug war, etc), and has a desire to work with Democrats in order to help his state over helping his party.
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« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2013, 08:03:04 PM »

Aaaaannnndddd it would seem the 2016 campaign has officially begun! *looks at watch* Wow, and two days before the inauguration from the LAST presidential election, too! That's gotta be a new record!
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« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2013, 08:11:11 PM »

Aaaaannnndddd it would seem the 2016 campaign has officially begun! *looks at watch* Wow, and two days before the inauguration from the LAST presidential election, too! That's gotta be a new record!
  You think that's impressive, wait until 2016, all of the major news networks will have already projected the 2020 winner by November 1st.
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« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2013, 08:18:28 PM »

Aaaaannnndddd it would seem the 2016 campaign has officially begun! *looks at watch* Wow, and two days before the inauguration from the LAST presidential election, too! That's gotta be a new record!

It's been going on for more than a year.  Schweitzer was already visiting early primary states in 2011:

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/08/09/buzz-building-for-montana-gov-brian-schweitzer-in-2016
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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2013, 11:02:47 PM »

Secret Service protection is automatic with the children of the President. It is to prevent kidnapping for blackmail.
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« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2013, 12:04:05 AM »

I don't know where you saw this apparent consensus that he was a "traditional union-busting Republican" (which I assume would be along the lines of Walker/Kasich/etc), but I don't think it was here. In my opinion, Christie is more or less a moderate Republican in the same way that Huntsman is seen as one. Fiscally conservative (but not extreme), realistic foreign policy views, socially moderate (civil unions, environment, drug war, etc), and has a desire to work with Democrats in order to help his state over helping his party.

Christie is always going knuckle-to-knuckle with the state teachers' unions, specifically. But what else is new? Every GOP New Jersey governor seems to run afoul of the NJEA at some point.
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« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2013, 08:02:48 AM »

Whay's so gutsy about it?  Assuming he does have presidential aspirations, what good does it do him to kowtow to the right wing in a fashion that guarantees that if he wins the nomination he'll lose the election?

Because Christie is trying to sound bipartisan and moderate when he is neither of those descriptions. Did everyone just suddenly forget how this guy was before Sandy? He wasn't even close to being bipartisan and it was pretty much agreed that we was to the right of Romney as a pretty traditional union-busting Republican.

He's been pretty bipartisan. Has he been able to move the state in a more conservative direction? Yes, but he's worked alongside the Democratic legislature on many issues. I don't know where you saw this apparent consensus that he was a "traditional union-busting Republican" (which I assume would be along the lines of Walker/Kasich/etc), but I don't think it was here. In my opinion, Christie is more or less a moderate Republican in the same way that Huntsman is seen as one. Fiscally conservative (but not extreme), realistic foreign policy views, socially moderate (civil unions, environment, drug war, etc), and has a desire to work with Democrats in order to help his state over helping his party.

I agree that Christie was to the left of Walker/Kaisch and such but I always saw him to the right of Romney and Huntsman. I still don't see where the bipartisanship is from; he's an effective user of the bully pulpit and has always had the "my way or the highway" tone.
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« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2013, 08:47:33 AM »

Well that's good to hear, and if this is his tone or if he went in the direction of a Bloomberg it would be worth following the GOP nomination. Still, he's probably thinking about re-election first before any 2016 considerations. Even so, I'd say he's setting himself up nicely to run to the left of the Palin conservatives (now that ain't hard) and the empty-suits. Hopefully, he might oppose them on global warming and even evolution! But global warming is really pushing it.
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« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2013, 03:33:01 PM »

I don't know where you saw this apparent consensus that he was a "traditional union-busting Republican" (which I assume would be along the lines of Walker/Kasich/etc), but I don't think it was here. In my opinion, Christie is more or less a moderate Republican in the same way that Huntsman is seen as one. Fiscally conservative (but not extreme), realistic foreign policy views, socially moderate (civil unions, environment, drug war, etc), and has a desire to work with Democrats in order to help his state over helping his party.

Christie is always going knuckle-to-knuckle with the state teachers' unions, specifically. But what else is new? Every GOP New Jersey governor seems to run afoul of the NJEA at some point.

That was only barely true for Tom Kean and Don Difrancesco. Those types had no issue signing fiscal daggers that gave the NJEA lavish windfall finances while gutting the taxpayer in the back.
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« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2013, 03:44:15 PM »

It's gutsy; he's banking on a more sane Republican electorate in 2016. It could really backfire on him, though that chance is just as big as a total victory.

There isn't a lot to suggest that they're getting more sane, is there?  Though I suppose the absence of the Black will calm them considerably compared to 2012.
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« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2013, 04:45:51 PM »

Like i said before....I wouldnt mind a President Chris Christie
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