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« on: January 23, 2013, 08:57:00 PM »

We have presently seven candidates running for the office of President of Atlasia. They are, in the order they declared:

GPORTER (Fed-TN)
Marokai Blue (Lab-IA)
Kalwejt (JEP-SD)
Winfield (SCP-RI)
Al Widdershins (CMPA-WV)
Cathcon (Fed-MI)
Keystone Phil (FdA-PA)

This will be the second debate of the February 2013 Presidential election. It shall begin with opening statements, followed by questioning. A round of questioning shall continue for either twenty-four hours or until all candidates have responded, whichever is sooner. There will be a separate thread for issues, questions, and/or commentary. Much as the previous debate focused on game reform, this one will center on economics.

Best of luck to all the candidates, and may the debate begin!



First question (an easy, broad one to kick off the debate): what would you do to decrease unemployment and create jobs?
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2013, 09:03:51 PM »

Mr. Joyce, I may be mistaken here, I'll admit it's possible, but I believe I declared before Mr. Widdershins. And possibly other candidates listed.
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2013, 09:22:00 PM »

Mr. Joyce, I may be mistaken here, I'll admit it's possible, but I believe I declared before Mr. Widdershins. And possibly other candidates listed.

My records and that of the DoFE have your declaration for the election on January 13, 2013 at 6:20:23 PM. Mr. Widdershins declared on January 07, 2013, at 8:25:24 PM.
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2013, 09:32:04 PM »

Mr. Joyce, I may be mistaken here, I'll admit it's possible, but I believe I declared before Mr. Widdershins. And possibly other candidates listed.

My records and that of the DoFE have your declaration for the election on January 13, 2013 at 6:20:23 PM. Mr. Widdershins declared on January 07, 2013, at 8:25:24 PM.

Your reactionary style of judgement is... well I can't say I approve. I'd use stronger language, but you're the debate moderator.
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2013, 10:03:45 PM »

Mr. Joyce, I may be mistaken here, I'll admit it's possible, but I believe I declared before Mr. Widdershins. And possibly other candidates listed.

My records and that of the DoFE have your declaration for the election on January 13, 2013 at 6:20:23 PM. Mr. Widdershins declared on January 07, 2013, at 8:25:24 PM.

Your reactionary style of judgement is... well I can't say I approve. I'd use stronger language, but you're the debate moderator.

Mr. Cathcon, my style of judgement for when you officially announced your candidacy for the office of President is the exact same as that employed by the Secretary of Federal Elections. Don't take it up with me.
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2013, 10:33:24 PM »

While Mr. Cathcon picks a petty fight with our fine moderator over when he entered the Presidential race, I offer Atlasians real solutions and strong policies to combat unemployment and create jobs.

As President, I will introduce a full employment strategy, the aim of which will be to create an economic environment in which Atlasians from all backgrounds will be able to thrive and prosper.  Meaningful employment provides individuals with a sense of self worth and with the ability to realize their goals and their potential.

The right to employment will foster an environment in which the economic rights of all citizens are respected.

Technological advances over the past 20 years has changed the face of employment in the world and in Atlasia.  Therefore, starting at the earliest levels, our education system must ensure that our children learn and are taught to become capable of coping in a technologically advanced society.  This is part of the full employment strategy, going into the next generation.

Technology is advancing rapidly, and as President, I intend that some of the brightest minds in Atlasia will identify emerging technologies in order to prepare a new generation of Atlasians will be prepared in these fields.  These new technologies will be providing millions of new jobs in the future, and I intend that Atlasians will be prepared.

A shortage of skilled workers in the trades is an ongoing problem.  As President, I will create and expand programs to ensure that Atlasia has adequate skilled and trained workers in the trades, i.e. plumbers, electrctians, carpenters, mechanics, masons, builders, etc.  Skilled workers in the trades will always be required and an effective training program will work towards ensuring that skilled workers in these fields will be available.

Small and medium sized businesses are the greatest job creators.  As President, I will work to create an environment in which these business can grow and thrive, thereby growing these organizations, enabling them to expand, prosper, and hire new employees.  I will institute programs which will provide comprehensive training and strategies for those wishing and intending to establish small businesses, in order to minimize their chances of failure.

The education and training of the individual is key to these full employment strategies.  Therefore, my education and training programs will be built around ensuring that our children and youth receive the best education and training possible in order that they will be prepared to thrive in a fast paced and ever changing world.   
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2013, 05:36:01 PM »

Obviously, we will need re-investment in job training programs so as to expand our country's base of employable citizens. However, a dearth of qualified citizens is hardly the only problem that affect our economy, nor is it anywhere near the beginning of the list of problems we face. Our economy is in need of several pieces of bold action on the part of the government. The cutting of the payroll tax and the lowering of interest rates will be good steps. I would to protect American workers and American industry from foreign competition. That does not mean we can't expand our nation's trade, but it must be on a firm and fair footing. As well, a re-investment in our nation's infrastructure could provide a boost to the economy while at the same time helping to bring to modernity a system in bad need of repair, saving taxpayers money in the future.
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2013, 08:12:37 PM »
« Edited: January 24, 2013, 08:15:02 PM by SoEA SJoyce »

Next question (those of you who haven't responded can catch up) (per request of Gov. Scott): How would you act to reform our education system, including specifically standardized testing?
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2013, 08:13:49 PM »

If I may butt in for a moment -- I'm particularly curious about where the candidates stand on standardized testing.
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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2013, 09:24:55 PM »
« Edited: January 25, 2013, 09:27:05 PM by LINCOLN REPUBLICAN »

In response to the moderator's question as to what would the candidates do to reform our education system, the Winfield/Simfan administration will work to achieve the following educational reforms.

FELLA (Fostering Early Literacy for Low-Income Atlasians) Act
The FELLA Act would establish funding for early literacy programmes in low-income areas and other areas of below-average literacy. These programs would be held at local libraries and schools, and would include family nights focused on the importance of and strategies for reading with children, reading and writing sessions at the libraries, and the Young Literacy Corps’ volunteers mentor pre-schoolers, kindergarteners and first graders in reading, oral language, and literacy skill development.

GET(Gaining Excellent Teachers) Act
The Gaining Excellent Teachers Act would supplement the recently passed Atlasian Institute of Teachers Act by providing incentives for high performance on the National Teachers Licensing Exam (NTLE) and performance in their academic institution via tax credits and tuition grants.

Universal Secondary Education Act
The federal government would mandate that every Atlasian, who is capable of such, must achieve a secondary-level education, that is, complete high school.

Universal Tertiary Education Act
The federal government would mandate that every Atlasian, who is capable of such, at least complete two years of tertiary education, whether it be at a trades school, an associate degree, vocational education, military education, or general bachelors and graduate degrees. This would help make our workforce more competitive in the 21st century global economy and allow for the strengthening of trades.

We will as well act swiftly to improve and ensure the safety of our students through the following anti bullying program.

Our schools must be as safe and as sceure as possible in order to ensure that our students are free to pursue their education and school activities without fear of violence, intimidation, or bullying.  While I fully recognize that violence in schools will never be completely eliminated, at the same time, school violence can be minimized by taking common sense steps to achieve this goal.

Behaviors such as bullying and hitting often start at a young age and may continue into young adulthood. Youth violence can often lead to serious injury or death.

Any amount of violence is unacceptable. Parents, teachers, and administrators expect schools to be safe havens of learning. Acts of violence can disrupt the learning process and have a negative effect on students, the school itself, and the broader community.

Sexual violence begins early in life.  Most victims do not tell friends and family about the abuse and suffer alone. Those who do disclose the violence may be stigmatized by friends, family, and their community.

Suicide is a serious public health problem that affects even young people. For youth and young adults between the ages of 10 and 24, suicide is the third leading cause of death. It results in approximately 4,300 lives lost each year.

As President, I shall be implementing an extensive training, information, and awareness program for administrators, teachers and students alike, conducted by experts in these various fields, discussing the above issues, and the best ways to avoid them.

I shall be establishing school health guidelines, designed to prevent unintentional injuries and violence. Guidelines promote safety and teach students the skills needed to prevent injuries and violence. They will be designed for all grade levels and provide support for a coordinated school health program, and will be implemented by experts in this field.

I shall also be establishing a school health index, which is a self-assessment and planning tool that enables schools to identify strengths and weaknesses of health and safety policies and programs, develops an action plan for improving student health and safety, and involves teachers, parents, students, and the community in improving school services.

Each year, emergency departments treat more than 200,000 children ages 14 and younger for playground-related injuries. I shall be implementing an extensive program about playground risks, and how to avoid severe injuries associated with playgrounds.
 
A child can take a spill, knock his or her head, and get a concussion in any number of school settings ranging from the hallway, the playground, the cafeteria, and beyond.  As President, I shall implement a program, developed for professionals working with grades K-12, to help principals, school nurses, teachers or other school professionals identify and respond to concussions in an array of school settings.

Where necessary or where felt required, schools shall have the authority to implement a lock down procedure to more adequately ensure student and faculty safety.  Schools shall as well have the authority to implement a procedure where students must pass through a detector on their way into school to detect any weapons they may be carrying, which shall be confiscated.

With reference to the inquiry from Governor Scott about where the candidates stand on standardized testing, first of all, let me thank the Governor for this very important question, an issue that would have wide ranging influence and far reaching consequences for education throughout Atlasia.

Standardized testing is a very complex and multi faceted issue.  There are many arguments that can be made both pro and con on this issue.  There is really no simple answer.  Both the pro and the con arguments regarding standardized testing are compelling.

Overall, however, I tend not to support standardized testing for students.
    
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2013, 06:19:04 AM »

Decrease unemployment by increasing jobs.
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2013, 10:17:08 AM »
« Edited: January 26, 2013, 01:16:52 PM by LINCOLN REPUBLICAN »


Thank you Mr. Kalwejt for your as always detailed and thought provoking policy pronouncements and solutions to the problems facing Atlasia in these troubled and challenging times we are living in.

The nation is truly indebted to you for  your uncanny insight and stirring leadership.

I myself am tremendously humbled and positively grateful simply to be on the same debate stage with such an awe inspiring statesman as yourself.  

 
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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2013, 02:23:33 PM »

Since this debate appears to be dead...

I'll just post all the questions, allow all the candidates to answer as they choose, and then rebut each other's responses.



What is your stance on affirmative action?

Would you introduce any new taxes?

Are there any industries you believe should be subsidized?

Is there any government function you would privatize, or any private function you would nationalize?

How would you help individuals reduce their personal debt (student, credit card, etc)?

What would you do to aid Atlasian manufacturing?

What would you do to aid Atlasian small businesses?

How would you reform our healthcare system?
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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2013, 05:31:27 PM »

What is your stance on affirmative action?

While I may be called racist for this, however I am not a fan of affirmative action. What is so often said about this country is that people can succeed regardless of race, creed, or background. While yes, we should enforce the civil rights provisions protecting the equality of workers, promoting some above others on the basis of race is hardly going to solve problems.

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The only way any new taxes, aside from maybe tariffs, would be introduced under my administration would be if we were to completely restructure the tax system. However, such radical action is unlikely unless I were to come into office and find the situation concerning taxation and budget to be in such peril.

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I would support ending certain large agriculture subsidies, especially those that discourage production. Right now there are children and families going without food in our country, and we don't need artificial price supports to support an industry merely for the appeasement of large agri-businesses. However, while I am a supporter of deflationary policies on the whole, the state of industry in this country has long been in collapse. As well, wages in this country have decreased in real dollars. As we did in years past, protective tariffs could be of use in helping our industry to be re-vitalized.

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Well, you can count me out of nationalizing anything. But as for privatizing? While I might want to reduce the scope of a number of institutions, I'm not sure if I'd like to just set something loose altogether. Potentially the National Endowment for the Arts.

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The idea that a politician would help someone with their debt is news to me. However, as I am campaigning as a candidate of the common man, it is my duty to include helping him (or even her!) in my campaign's platform. So... Let's say I would work to reduce the rates of student loans. Student debt in this country can be crippling, and what we want in this nation is to encourage people to go to college, not scare them off by making it an undue financial burden.

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Like I already said, I would attempt to bolster this industry against foreign competition.

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I would reduce a number of red tape regulations that have helped in constraining growth.

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I would like to emulate the system of some Nordic country. I can't remember which, but about a year ago I remembered hearing about some country up in that part of the world that had a healthcare system in which all healthcare companies were required to offer a standard, universal, and affordable plan. However, I of course would not outlaw more expensive system for Atlasia's privileged citizens. After all, were I rich, I might like to pay more for some better stuff, y'know?
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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2013, 05:54:13 PM »

Next question (those of you who haven't responded can catch up) (per request of Gov. Scott): How would you act to reform our education system, including specifically standardized testing?

In order to foster a national spirit of achievement and forward-chargingness that is needed in the bold Atlasia that I see on the horizon, we need a system that encourages and promotes success in our education. Likely propaganda could be used. As well, we must hold our students up to high standards. This is a difficulty in inner-city areas, where administrators and local officials are corrupt, and attempts to spend more on the education system would be thwarted by this corruption. We've seen examples of this in Pontiac. Nevertheless, we must be willing to spend money on even our most impoverished school districts. With that will come measures to fight corruption and root out corrupt local administrators through our Justice Department.

As for standardized tests, while I was a student, they serve a very good purpose: getting kids shorter days, so they can walk around in pajama pants that look like blue jeans after working out in their school's weight room. I don't want to ruin that for these kids.
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« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2013, 10:09:10 PM »

Thank you Mr. SJoyce for getting this debate going again.  I have participated actively in all the previous questions as I believe the citizens of Atlasia are entitled to  know where the candidates stand.  It would appear that generally only Mr. Cathcon, Mr. Kalwejt, and  myself have been active in this debate.

Stance on affirmative action:

I am not particularly a fan of affirmative action.  I believe everyone should be entitled to equal treatment.  I do not believe in filling a position with someone of a particular gender or race simply because of that.  The individual should possess the qualifications for the position, regardless of gender or race.

Introduce any new taxes:

Goods and Services Tax Act

The Goods and Services Tax (GST) would be a tax levied on the value added on each level of production, at a level of 5%. Most developed countries, and indeed most countries in general, have a goods and services tax, and there is no reason Atlasia should not have one as well, especially in order to fund the improvements we intend to make. With exemptions for housing, education, and charitable donations, a GST would raise $277.2 billion in new revenue.

Financial Transactions Tax

The Financial Transactions Tax would tax the trades of each major category of financial assets traded in Atlasian markets: stocks, bonds, foreign exchange, and derivative assets (i.e. options, forwards, futures, and swaps). Many analysts also believe that an excessive share of the economy’s resources is being consumed by the financial sector. A financial transactions or trading tax is a policy tool that can address both issues: raising a substantial amount of revenue and reducing the size of financial trading in the U.S. economy relative to the economy’s level of productive activity. At a rate of 0.5% on stocks and 0.01% on bonds, a Financial Transactions Tax could raise up to $353.8 billion in new revenue.

Income tax policy

This tax policy is based on income, and I will propose that all Atlasians with an income over 10,000 should and will participate in the payment of taxes in order to provide the revenue necessary to move the nation forward, as well as I believe that all who benefit from citizenship in Atlasia should participate in the responsibility to provide necessary revenues for the nations programs.
 
Income up to 10,000 no tax
Income over 10,000 up to 20,000 taxed at 5%
Income over 20,000 up to 35,000 taxed at 10% 
Income over 35,000 up to 50,000 taxed at 15%
Income over 50,000 up to 100,000 taxed at 20%
Income over 100,000 up to 300,000  taxed at 25%
Income over 300,000 up to 500,000 taxed at 30%
Income over 500,000 up to 1,000,000 taxed at 35%
Income over 1,000,000 up to 3,000,000 taxed at 40%
Income over 3,000,000 up to 5,000,000 taxed at 45%
Income over 5,000,000 taxed at 50%

No deductions or loopholes are allowed, however, since it is clear that families with children have greater expenses, families with an income not above 70,000 will receive a rebate per child based on the following table.

Income up to 35,000 rebate of 2,000 per child
Income over 35,000 up to 50,000 rebate of 1,000 per child
Income over 50,000 up to 70,000 rebate of 500 per child

Any industries that I would subsidize

Due to the important nature of the oil and gas industry this would be subsidized  to enable our oil and gas industry to be internationally competitive.

Government functions privatized or private functions nationalized

No government functions would be privatized.  Health care would be nationalized to ensure that all citizens of Atlasia receive the best health care available.

Reduce personal debt

From my platform

Federal Provident Fund Act
The Federal Provident Fund would mandate the saving by every Atlasian of a minimum 2.25% of their annual income for old age, to gradually increase over time. Eventually this may displace Social Security. A minimum savings would be set and differences between 2.25% of income and the legal minimum would be funded by the government, thus encouraging saving even for low-income earners.

National Savings Bank Act
A Federally-backed savings bank would be established to encourage general  (non-retirement) saving by individuals, and re-establishing the Postal Savings Bank. Income shown as saved in the Savings Bank would be eligible for a full tax credit of up to $50,000 for couples and $25,000, and a half tax credit in other banks.

Guaranteed Minimum Income Act
Each Atlasian would be entitled to a minimum post-tax income as set forth by the bill, and the actualization of the minimum income would be through a negative income tax, without any other reduction of benefits.

Aid to manufacturing, small business

Manufacturing and small business would be subsidized to ensure viability on the national and international markets.

Healthcare system

I have to agree somewhat with Mr. Cathcon on this issue.  I will work towards a Swedish/Norwegian style healthcare system, publicly funded and efficient.  I will root out waste and corruption in the healthcare system, to ensure that public funds are used wisely and properly.

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« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2013, 05:13:32 PM »

I'd like to thank Misters Winfield and Kalwejt for their participation.

SJoyce, any possibility of more of this debate stuff? I was having fun.
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« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2013, 05:15:53 PM »

How about a VP debate?
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« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2013, 07:13:15 PM »


Sounds like a good idea!
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« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2013, 08:13:06 PM »

Y'all want a third debate in this format, a townhall one, and/or a VP debate?
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« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2013, 08:16:24 PM »

A town hall is the best format possible, as it allows The People to ask anything they'd like. We are all politicians and we all must have thick skin.
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« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2013, 04:23:18 PM »

What my opponents said is a bunch of stuff.

I oppose VP debate because my running mate is required to do nothing related to campaign. I'm proud of him.
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« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2013, 07:53:34 PM »

Is there a reason Marokai isn't participating in this debate?
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« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2013, 07:58:30 PM »

I would really like a town hall debate.
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« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2013, 08:02:06 PM »

Is there a reason Marokai isn't participating in this debate?

Is this debate even still continuing? Most of the posts in here aren't even about the questions and are more about talking about the debate itself or a VP debate, which still hasn't happened, and this thread has barely been on the first page except for the assorted off-topic bumps for the last week.
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