SENATE BILL: TRIAL, NOT TURNOUT AMENDMENT-Take Two (Sent to Regions)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I am putting this in the Emergency slot. If someone has problem with that I will move it to PPT.

Oakie has 24 hours to explain to the Senate why we are back here again. Mere links to some other post somewhere won't suffice. We deserve our own explanations, because we are special people.

Shall I commence UC as well?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Keep in mind the take two is for Senate purposes only, it doesn't really have to be officially in the title, and thus we don't have to add that via an amendment if we don't need (want) to do so.

[Oakvale]

I'm ready for my massive helping of humble pie.

Okay, here's what happened - in the last thread on this Marokai introduced an amendment to allow for impeachment sans public vote if the Senate voted unanimously to impeach. Seeing the broad support for this but not wanting to make it so restrictive, I worked up a compromise on a similar principle - instead of a unanimous vote I'd lower the threshold to eight tenths of the Senate.

Here's the problem - I wrote my amendment early when groggy and bleary-eyed, and thus made a critical, embarrassing mistake that unfortunately only came to light in the most public way - since my idea was based on Marokai's proposal, I'd used his text, but overlooked removing his prior language in clause one.

As such, the TNTA still allowed for the unanimous vote, meaning that in its iteration after the passage of my compromise amendment, it allowed for impeachment without a public poll only in the case of a unanimous vote... unless there was also an 80% vote. It made no sense. To my discredit, I did not notice this until it was too late.

Unless I've made some other horrible error - and let's face it, that's far from impossible - this edited emergency text remedies that - removing the language about unanimous votes and making it clear that an 80% vote of the Senate for impeachment will allow for removal without a public poll.

My hope is that we can simply bring this to a final vote since - I'm assuming - most Senators voted for the final text on the understanding that the 80% threshold had been established, not noticing the redundant, but bill-crippling unanimity clause.

I wholeheartedly apologise for this. I promise to stop posting when I'm tired and have caffeine jitters.

PS: This is my least favourite pie.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Unfortunately, I got on to late to make UC worthwhile. I'll just open a vote when time expires 24 hours from now.

I came this close to having my computer back yesterday, but a side issue came up and caused some days delay.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Senators, this bill is now at final vote, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

I hope this is correct now.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Aye

[Oakvale]

Ayegain.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

AYE, HOPE THIS IS RIGHT THIS TIME!!!

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Aye

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Aye

[Niemeyerite]

Abstain, leaning aye.

[Spamage]

Aye

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Vote on Senate Passage of the TRIAL, NOT TURNOUT AMENDMENT:

Aye (: Averroës Nix, Ben, HagridOfTheDeep, jdb, JulioMadrid, NC Yankee, Oakvale, and Spamage
Nay (0):
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (2): Franzl and Roy Barnes 2010

With eight votes in the affirmative and none in the negative, the Amendment has passed the Senate and has been sent to the regions for ratification.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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