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« on: February 13, 2005, 05:38:48 PM »
it's your choose
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2005, 05:41:39 PM »
Option 1.

BTW, Bono, why are you a Democrat now?
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2005, 05:42:24 PM »
Then, no.
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2005, 05:44:11 PM »
no.

republicans at that time were in favor of horrible things like tariffs, income taxes, suspending civil liberties...well i guess they are still in favor of the last one.
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2005, 05:46:23 PM »
Quote from: Philip on February 13, 2005, 05:41:39 PM
Option 1.

BTW, Bono, why are you a Democrat now?

I'm not. i'm just taking a dig at democrats, and at the same time paying my respects to the party of Cleveland.
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2005, 05:50:10 PM »
by today's standards yes but at the time no. So no.
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2005, 05:52:31 PM »
Well, I guess if WalterMitty can use a Republican avatar, you can use a Democratic avatar. Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2005, 05:57:38 PM »
No. Lincoln's views were those of the GOP at that time.
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2005, 06:32:54 PM »
as of now, i see six people voted yes -would any of you care to share your reasons why you voted that way?
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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2005, 06:34:30 PM »
At the time - No.

As of today - Yes.
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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2005, 06:47:45 PM »
Quote from: Antifa BRTD on February 13, 2005, 05:50:10 PM
by today's standards yes but at the time no. So no.
So you say Lincoln is an abortion supporter, against the death penalty, in favor of gay marriages, in favor of 80% taxes, wants to yield national law to international law, will support Kyoto?

You're nuts.
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2005, 06:50:25 PM »
RINO Lincoln policies include:

    * Morrill Tariff (1861)
    * First Income Tax (1861)
    * Expanded Postal Service (1861)
    * Homestead Act (1862)
    * Morrill Land-Grant College Act (1862)
    * Department of Agriculture (1862)
    * Bureau of Printing and Engraving (1862)
    * Transcontinental Railroad Land Grants (1862, 1863, 1864)
    * National Banking Acts (1863, 1864, 1865, 1866)
    * Comptroller of the Currency (1863)
    * National Academy of Science (1863)
    * Free urban mail delivery (1863)
    * Yosemite public nature reserve land grant (1864)
    * Contract Labor Act (1864)
    * Office of Immigration (1864)
    * Railway mail service (1864)
    * Money order system (1864)
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2005, 07:23:00 PM »
At the time, RINOs were the conservatives and DINOs were the liberals...


...no
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2005, 07:37:59 PM »
It's kind of silly to apply today's standards for Republicanism to a Republican who lived 140 years ago.  If Abraham Lincoln was a Republican today, would he be a RINO?  Maybe.  Was Abraham Lincoln a RINO 140 years ago?  No.
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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2005, 07:41:07 PM »
I voted yes but I was thinking of today. Then, definately not.
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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2005, 07:50:04 PM »
Quote from: Senator Gabu, PPT on February 13, 2005, 07:37:59 PM
It's kind of silly to apply today's standards for Republicanism to a Republican who lived 140 years ago.  If Abraham Lincoln was a Republican today, would he be a RINO?  Maybe.  Was Abraham Lincoln a RINO 140 years ago?  No.

He'd probably be with Barbara Boxer challenging the recount in Ohio.
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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2005, 09:33:48 PM »
Lincoln was from the moderate wing of the party when he was nominated (as opposed to, say, Seward).  If he had lived into Reconstruction, his moderate streak would have come out even more.

But he certainly wasn't a donkey in elephant's clothing...so no.
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« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2005, 02:56:11 AM »
Quote from: Philip on February 13, 2005, 06:50:25 PM
RINO Lincoln policies include:

    * Morrill Tariff (1861)
    * First Income Tax (1861)
    * Expanded Postal Service (1861)
    * Homestead Act (1862)
    * Morrill Land-Grant College Act (1862)
    * Department of Agriculture (1862)
    * Bureau of Printing and Engraving (1862)
    * Transcontinental Railroad Land Grants (1862, 1863, 1864)
    * National Banking Acts (1863, 1864, 1865, 1866)
    * Comptroller of the Currency (1863)
    * National Academy of Science (1863)
    * Free urban mail delivery (1863)
    * Yosemite public nature reserve land grant (1864)
    * Contract Labor Act (1864)
    * Office of Immigration (1864)
    * Railway mail service (1864)
    * Money order system (1864)

You forgot that little thing called the civil War.
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« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2005, 02:58:08 AM »
At the time, no.
If he was a Republican today, yes.
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« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2005, 02:03:25 AM »
Quote from: King on February 13, 2005, 07:23:00 PM
At the time, RINOs were the conservatives and DINOs were the liberals...

That's actually not true at all
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« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2005, 09:07:06 AM »
He was the first Republican President.  A case can be made that he set the standard for being a Republican and all since then who fail to meet it are RINOs.
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« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2005, 09:08:49 AM »
Abraham "The Bastard" Lincoln? Of course! Everybody knows that Strom Thurmund is the paragon of the quintessential Republican, and Lincoln's oppression of South Carolina clearly disqualifies him from Republican status.
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« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2005, 09:23:23 AM »
Quote from: Tredrick on May 08, 2005, 09:07:06 AM
He was the first Republican President.  A case can be made that he set the standard for being a Republican and all since then who fail to meet it are RINOs.
Yeah, I agree. Lincoln was the only Republican President ever.
Well, maybe Eisenhower as well. Hayes. Teddy Roosevelt. You get the picture. Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2005, 09:28:39 AM »
Quote from: thefactor on May 08, 2005, 09:08:49 AM
Abraham "The Bastard" Lincoln? Of course! Everybody knows that Strom Thurmund is the paragon of the quintessential Republican, and Lincoln's oppression of South Carolina clearly disqualifies him from Republican status.

Lincoln didn't oppress the south. As much as Lincoln oppressed the north.
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« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2005, 09:59:55 AM »
By today's standards, certainly, but not by the standards of the time.
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