1912 United States Presidential Election

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

We need Underwood - someone who can work with all parties in Congress, and a Southerner that won't give bigotry the time of day.

This

Also, I agree with Cathcon, let's get some variation.  Plus, it doesn't sound like President LaFollette has actually been able to get much of anything passed.

That's what Cathcon says. But this being a collaborative TL, I think anyone should be able to imagine what they want about one's presidency.

How do you propose that his presidency have gone?

I don't know, I just think you shouldn't be the only judge on whether presidencies are successful or not.

Anyway, in an America voting as we do for President, the Congress would also be much more progressive than IRL. It makes no sense to have Debs winning all the western States every time and not have also these States electing Socialist delegations as well.

One problem with a president in this timeline getting his (or even her!) agenda passed is the fact that no man has entered office with a mandate since Samuel J. Tilden in 1877, and given the variety of parties involved in this game, there's bound to be a large amount of factionalism, both inside and outside the parties.

[Kitteh]

We need Underwood - someone who can work with all parties in Congress, and a Southerner that won't give bigotry the time of day.

This

Also, I agree with Cathcon, let's get some variation.  Plus, it doesn't sound like President LaFollette has actually been able to get much of anything passed.

That's what Cathcon says. But this being a collaborative TL, I think anyone should be able to imagine what they want about one's presidency.

How do you propose that his presidency have gone?

I don't know, I just think you shouldn't be the only judge on whether presidencies are successful or not.

Anyway, in an America voting as we do for President, the Congress would also be much more progressive than IRL. It makes no sense to have Debs winning all the western States every time and not have also these States electing Socialist delegations as well.

There is probably a majority in Congress in this TL of Socialists/Progressive Republicans/Liberal Democrats. I would guess that the real opposition would come from the Supreme Court, led by Taft. It would be like a lot of FDR's time in office, which as we all know eventually led to the court packing proposal.

Still, FDR was able to get quite a lot done despite a hostile Supreme Court. I would imagine La Follete would do the same.

[Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario)]

Voted Underwood over the mediocre President La Follette, the imperialist Roosevelt, the far-left loony Debs, and the single issue candidate Chafin.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

We need Underwood - someone who can work with all parties in Congress, and a Southerner that won't give bigotry the time of day.

This

Also, I agree with Cathcon, let's get some variation.  Plus, it doesn't sound like President LaFollette has actually been able to get much of anything passed.

That's what Cathcon says. But this being a collaborative TL, I think anyone should be able to imagine what they want about one's presidency.

How do you propose that his presidency have gone?

I don't know, I just think you shouldn't be the only judge on whether presidencies are successful or not.

Anyway, in an America voting as we do for President, the Congress would also be much more progressive than IRL. It makes no sense to have Debs winning all the western States every time and not have also these States electing Socialist delegations as well.

There is probably a majority in Congress in this TL of Socialists/Progressive Republicans/Liberal Democrats. I would guess that the real opposition would come from the Supreme Court, led by Taft. It would be like a lot of FDR's time in office, which as we all know eventually led to the court packing proposal.

Still, FDR was able to get quite a lot done despite a hostile Supreme Court. I would imagine La Follete would do the same.

The Socialists would probably be extremely uncompromising though and that could prove to be a problem.  Also, LaFollette wasn't as well suited in temperament to the Presidency.

[Antonio the Sixth]

We need Underwood - someone who can work with all parties in Congress, and a Southerner that won't give bigotry the time of day.

This

Also, I agree with Cathcon, let's get some variation.  Plus, it doesn't sound like President LaFollette has actually been able to get much of anything passed.

That's what Cathcon says. But this being a collaborative TL, I think anyone should be able to imagine what they want about one's presidency.

How do you propose that his presidency have gone?

I don't know, I just think you shouldn't be the only judge on whether presidencies are successful or not.

Anyway, in an America voting as we do for President, the Congress would also be much more progressive than IRL. It makes no sense to have Debs winning all the western States every time and not have also these States electing Socialist delegations as well.

There is probably a majority in Congress in this TL of Socialists/Progressive Republicans/Liberal Democrats. I would guess that the real opposition would come from the Supreme Court, led by Taft. It would be like a lot of FDR's time in office, which as we all know eventually led to the court packing proposal.

Still, FDR was able to get quite a lot done despite a hostile Supreme Court. I would imagine La Follete would do the same.

With the streak of progressive Presidents we had, the SCOTUS should be fine by now.

[Antonio the Sixth]

We need Underwood - someone who can work with all parties in Congress, and a Southerner that won't give bigotry the time of day.

This

Also, I agree with Cathcon, let's get some variation.  Plus, it doesn't sound like President LaFollette has actually been able to get much of anything passed.

That's what Cathcon says. But this being a collaborative TL, I think anyone should be able to imagine what they want about one's presidency.

How do you propose that his presidency have gone?

I don't know, I just think you shouldn't be the only judge on whether presidencies are successful or not.

Anyway, in an America voting as we do for President, the Congress would also be much more progressive than IRL. It makes no sense to have Debs winning all the western States every time and not have also these States electing Socialist delegations as well.

There is probably a majority in Congress in this TL of Socialists/Progressive Republicans/Liberal Democrats. I would guess that the real opposition would come from the Supreme Court, led by Taft. It would be like a lot of FDR's time in office, which as we all know eventually led to the court packing proposal.

Still, FDR was able to get quite a lot done despite a hostile Supreme Court. I would imagine La Follete would do the same.

The Socialists would probably be extremely uncompromising though and that could prove to be a problem.

I could see that, yeah. Far-lefties are very good at killing attempts at progressive reform.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Going with my heart and voting Roosevelt.

[Dereich]

Going with my heart and voting Roosevelt.

I'm with you Mr. President Marokai. With the Kaiser's belligerence continuing to threaten global peace I'd only trust the man whose excellent diplomacy won him the Nobel Peace Prize, Theodore Roosevelt. Additionally, only Roosevelt would be able to push necessary progressive legislation through congress, as he did in his previous stint in office.

[Darth Maul]

Roosevelt

[Supersonic]

I stomached LaFollette last time around, but I'm going with Roosevelt on this one.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Currently, if I'm not mistaken, polling shows La Follette with 32%, Roosevelt and Underwood tied with 26%, and Debs trailing with 16%, rounded to the nearest percentage point.

Also, Tedmentum!

[Kitteh]

We need Underwood - someone who can work with all parties in Congress, and a Southerner that won't give bigotry the time of day.

This

Also, I agree with Cathcon, let's get some variation.  Plus, it doesn't sound like President LaFollette has actually been able to get much of anything passed.

That's what Cathcon says. But this being a collaborative TL, I think anyone should be able to imagine what they want about one's presidency.

How do you propose that his presidency have gone?

I don't know, I just think you shouldn't be the only judge on whether presidencies are successful or not.

Anyway, in an America voting as we do for President, the Congress would also be much more progressive than IRL. It makes no sense to have Debs winning all the western States every time and not have also these States electing Socialist delegations as well.

There is probably a majority in Congress in this TL of Socialists/Progressive Republicans/Liberal Democrats. I would guess that the real opposition would come from the Supreme Court, led by Taft. It would be like a lot of FDR's time in office, which as we all know eventually led to the court packing proposal.

Still, FDR was able to get quite a lot done despite a hostile Supreme Court. I would imagine La Follete would do the same.

The Socialists would probably be extremely uncompromising though and that could prove to be a problem.  Also, LaFollette wasn't as well suited in temperament to the Presidency.

Why would they be extremely uncompromising? They endorsed La Follette when he ran in 24.

[Negusa Nagast 🚀]

TR is the best choice here.

[Darth Maul]

Roosevelt.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

La Follette.  And don't make fun of me for it!

[Dereich]

La Follette.  And don't make fun of me for it!

But...but...you make it soooooo easy.

[Antonio the Sixth]

La Follette.  And don't make fun of me for it!

But...but...you make it soooooo easy.

I'm sure he would have voted for Roosevelt if he had won the GOP nomination and LaFollette had run on the Progressive ticket instead.

[SPC]

La Follette.  And don't make fun of me for it!

But...but...you make it soooooo easy.

I'm sure he would have voted for Roosevelt if he had won the GOP nomination and LaFollette had run on the Progressive ticket instead.

I'm sure he would have voted Republican in the 1991 Louisiana gubernatorial election so he could vote against the racist Democrats.

[Dancing with Myself]

TR is the best choice here.

[RogueBeaver]

Underwood.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

bump

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

One more day to get all your voting in!

[Kaine for Senate '18]

TR

[Goldwater]

Just based on the comments, I'm imagining this will be a pretty close election regardless of who wins.

[TNF]

[1] Eugene Debs
[2] Robert La Follette
[3] Theodore Roosevelt