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Question: Which of these fantabulous choices?
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President Robert La Follette (Republican-Wisconsin)/Vice President Albert Cummins (Republican-Iowa)
 
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Congressman Oscar W. Underwood (Democrat-Alabama)/Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives James Beauchamp Clark (Democrat-Missouri)
 
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Former President Theodore Roosevelt (Bull Moose-New York)/Governor Hiram W. Johnson (Bull Moose-California)
 
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Mr. Eugene V. Debs (Socialist-Indiana)/Mayor Emil Seidel (Socialist-Wisconsin)
 
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Mr. Eugene Chafin (Prohibition-Wisconsin)/Mr. Aaron S. Watkins (Prohibition-Ohio)
 
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« on: January 25, 2013, 08:00:12 PM »

The Year is 1912...
And the regular party system is in chaos. Four years, President La Follette has reigned over America. Now, he faces the greatest political challenge of his career, re-election to the office of the presidency.


President Robert M. La Follette, Sr. (Republican-Wisconsin)/Vice President Albert B. Cummins (Republican-Iowa)

The Republican Ticket
President Robert La Follette is running for re-election. Over the past four years, he has faced conflict with Congress. While having busted a number of trusts over the last four years--including what Roosevelt deemed "good trusts"--and having stood valiantly for progressive ideals, he has not had as much success in dealing with Congress as his predecessor has. While Roosevelt managed to bully and railroad the legislature, La Follette has not resorted to such tactics, and faced the grim job of attempting to work and compromise with them, something a principled man like La Follette has little instinct for. The result has been little truly successful legislation getting passed, despite the President's high minded ideals.


Congressman Oscar W. Underwood (Democrat-Alabama)/Speaker of the House James Beauchamp Clark (Democrat-Missouri)

The Democratic Ticket
In what seems to be the most progressive election in the nation's history, the Democrats too have nominated someone from their liberal wing to be their standard bearer. Congressman Oscar W. Underwood is running on a platform of tariff reduction, trust busting, and establishment of a federal reserve to oversee the nation's banking system. As well, the Democratic platform opposes the imperialism of the Roosevelt years.


Former President Theodore Roosevelt (Bull Moose-New York)/Governor Hiram W. Johnson (Bull Moose-California)

That Other Ticket
Roosevelt, in late 1911, decided to jump into the race for the Republican nomination. While at first friends with La Follette during their time working together, grew to detest the man he viewed as too impish on foreign policy. During La Follette's presidency, Roosevelt became a vocal critic of his successor, criticizing his inability to pass landmark legislation, his "excessive" trust busting, and La Follette's incredibly restrained--especially in comparison to Roosevelt--foreign policy. After failing to win the Republican nomination, Roosevelt opted to run on a third party ticket with a radical platform, selecting his ally Hiram Johnson for Vice President.


Mr. Eugene V. Debs (Socialist-Indiana)/Mayor Emil Seidel (Socialist-Wisconsin)

The Socialist Ticket
They're at it again! Yup, Eugene Debs and his merry band. I'll assume it's pretty much the same platform as in previous years, "public ownership" of corporations, shortening the work day, and all that great stuff.


Mr. Eugene Chafin (Prohibition-Wisconsin)/Mr. Aaron S. Watkins (Prohibition-Ohio)

The Prohibition Ticket
We don't like drinks, etc.
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2013, 08:02:36 PM »

Underwood. La Follette is good too.
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2013, 08:03:33 PM »

Keep it up with Fighting Bob! Show those damn Congressional obstructionists what's what!
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2013, 08:09:33 PM »

After thinking about it-
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2013, 08:17:00 PM »

We need to end La Follette's weak leadership & excessive trust busting! Go Roosevelt!
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2013, 08:21:02 PM »

How the hell did Debs not win. Oh Well. The socialist one-party state shall come soon enough.
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2013, 08:31:38 PM »

Tough, between La Follette and Underwood. I would probably vote for Underwood in my own preferences, but La Follette strategically.
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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2013, 08:32:08 PM »

"Ripsaw, ripsaw, ripsaw, bang! We belong to the Gene Debs' gang. Are we Socialists? I should smile! We're Revolutionists all the while."
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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2013, 09:10:28 PM »

Went with LaFollette due to Underwood's opposition to women's suffrage.
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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2013, 09:14:02 PM »

Went with Underwood
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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2013, 09:14:52 PM »

Debs.

Went with LaFollette due to Underwood's opposition to women's suffrage.

Economic leftists should also be aware that Underwood was anti-labor.
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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2013, 09:15:16 PM »

Went with LaFollette due to Underwood's opposition to women's suffrage.

If we had voted for Wilson, we still wouldn't have entered the war. That was only his second term.
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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2013, 09:19:05 PM »

I think I'm going to vote strategically for LaFollette to stop Underwood. I'd prefer Debs by a hair but LaFollette would be far better than Underwood.
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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2013, 09:26:33 PM »

You people just don't like variation do you? Underwood is the "best" possible Democrat that could be nominated and y'all still won't have him! You want a string of unbroken liberal Republicans, 1856-1932, then an unbroken string of liberal Democrats 1932-Present. It's just gotta be the same ol' same ol' all the time, doesn't it?
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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2013, 09:27:09 PM »

You people just don't like variation do you? Underwood is the "best" possible Democrat that could be nominated and y'all still won't have him! You want a string of unbroken liberal Republicans, 1856-1932, then an unbroken string of liberal Democrats 1932-Present. It's just gotta be the same ol' same ol' all the time, doesn't it?

No, I want Debs.
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« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2013, 09:29:26 PM »

You people just don't like variation do you? Underwood is the "best" possible Democrat that could be nominated and y'all still won't have him! You want a string of unbroken liberal Republicans, 1856-1932, then an unbroken string of liberal Democrats 1932-Present. It's just gotta be the same ol' same ol' all the time, doesn't it?

I'll vote how I really feel once Debs stop being in the race.
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« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2013, 09:33:03 PM »

We need Underwood - someone who can work with all parties in Congress, and a Southerner that won't give bigotry the time of day.
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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2013, 09:36:26 PM »

Keep it up with Fighting Bob! Show those damn Congressional obstructionists what's what!
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« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2013, 09:38:57 PM »

We need Underwood - someone who can work with all parties in Congress, and a Southerner that won't give bigotry the time of day.

This

Also, I agree with Cathcon, let's get some variation.  Plus, it doesn't sound like President LaFollette has actually been able to get much of anything passed.
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« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2013, 09:39:08 PM »

You people just don't like variation do you? Underwood is the "best" possible Democrat that could be nominated and y'all still won't have him! You want a string of unbroken liberal Republicans, 1856-1932, then an unbroken string of liberal Democrats 1932-Present. It's just gotta be the same ol' same ol' all the time, doesn't it?

I'll vote how I really feel once Debs stop being in the race.
well Debs didn't run in 1916  his last race was 1920
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« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2013, 09:45:44 PM »

We need Underwood - someone who can work with all parties in Congress, and a Southerner that won't give bigotry the time of day.

This

Also, I agree with Cathcon, let's get some variation.  Plus, it doesn't sound like President LaFollette has actually been able to get much of anything passed.

That's what Cathcon says. But this being a collaborative TL, I think anyone should be able to imagine what they want about one's presidency.
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« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2013, 09:54:58 PM »

We need Underwood - someone who can work with all parties in Congress, and a Southerner that won't give bigotry the time of day.

This

Also, I agree with Cathcon, let's get some variation.  Plus, it doesn't sound like President LaFollette has actually been able to get much of anything passed.

That's what Cathcon says. But this being a collaborative TL, I think anyone should be able to imagine what they want about one's presidency.

How do you propose that his presidency have gone?
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« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2013, 09:58:16 PM »

We need Underwood - someone who can work with all parties in Congress, and a Southerner that won't give bigotry the time of day.

This

Also, I agree with Cathcon, let's get some variation.  Plus, it doesn't sound like President LaFollette has actually been able to get much of anything passed.

That's what Cathcon says. But this being a collaborative TL, I think anyone should be able to imagine what they want about one's presidency.

Honestly, LaFollette was a great Senator, but I genuinely don't think he'd be a good fit for the Presidency.  Underwood is the best man to lead our great nation for the next for years.  His Presidency would surely be marked by progressivism, pragmatism, and prosperity.
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« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2013, 10:00:42 PM »
« Edited: January 25, 2013, 10:05:24 PM by Gass3268 »

Fighting Bob will keep us out of war!
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« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2013, 10:47:59 PM »

We need Underwood - someone who can work with all parties in Congress, and a Southerner that won't give bigotry the time of day.

This

Also, I agree with Cathcon, let's get some variation.  Plus, it doesn't sound like President LaFollette has actually been able to get much of anything passed.

That's what Cathcon says. But this being a collaborative TL, I think anyone should be able to imagine what they want about one's presidency.

How do you propose that his presidency have gone?

I don't know, I just think you shouldn't be the only judge on whether presidencies are successful or not. Wink

Anyway, in an America voting as we do for President, the Congress would also be much more progressive than IRL. It makes no sense to have Debs winning all the western States every time and not have also these States electing Socialist delegations as well.
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