SENATE BILL: Clean Carbon Communities Act of 2013 (Law'd)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Sponsor: Roy Barnes 2010 Ben Averroës Nix

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I would call 24 hours here to, but that LOA will make it meaningless anyway. Still, I would appreciate it if Barnes could post here at the earliest opportunity.

[Oakvale]

I'll go ahead and motion to table until Barnes gets back.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

This is getting well on the sunny side of ridiculous by now. I hate to see some potentially good bills go to waste like this.

If he doesn't do anything on this by tomorrow, then I will second the motion filed by Oakie. Of course if anyone else wants to go ahead and get the ball rolling sooner, they are free to do so.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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A motion to table has been filed by Senator Oakvale, which was then seconded by Senator Averroës Nix . A 48 hour, two-thirds vote is thus commenced on the motion to table the Clean Carbon Communities Act of 2013, Senators please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

[Franzl]

I did not second the motion.

I vote AYE, though.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I did not second the motion.

I vote AYE, though.

I always copy and paste Nixy's full display name when I need it and I must have hit paste without copying it first and your the lucky winner of having been in the clipboard as the previously copied item.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Nay

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Nay

In theory, I agree that we shouldn't really be rewarding behaviour like Barnes's. But I think there's a lot here to work with. We could do some real good with this bill.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Nay

In theory, I agree that we shouldn't really be rewarding behaviour like Barnes's. But I think there's a lot here to work with. We could do some real good with this bill.

I agree.  This is a good bill, and it was something I intended to use to launch my energy plan as governor if it were to pass.  It would be a shame to see it die now.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

NAY b/c Barnes IS GONE!!!


We need a new sponsor here.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

I'll assume sponsorship.

[Napoleon]

I'll assume sponsorship.

Thank you Senator.

[Franzl]

I change my vote to NAY.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Vote on the Motion to Table

Aye (0):
Nay (5): Averroës Nix, Ben, Franzl, HagridOfTheDeep and NC YAnkee
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (4): jdb, JulioMadrid, Oakvale and Spamage (WTF?!!!!)
Vacant Seats (1): Roy Barnes 2010

The motion has failed.


Senators have 48 hours to object to Ben's assumption of sponsorship.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I did not second the motion.

I vote AYE, though.

It is soemthing abotu this bill, I just accidentally called 48 hours on Nix's assumption of sponsorship.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Ben is now sponsor.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

My issue is with what's supposed to be included in the report. I have a feeling that $15,000,000 won't be enough to retrofit and upgrade every government building. We could up the funding, but I'm not really in favour of continuously throwing money at problems. Instead, what if we loosen the requirements for the report and actually trust the regions?

Also, here's a suggestion. Even if $15,000,000 isn't able to upgrade every government building in a region, that money will still be put to enough use that the regions will see savings in their in their electricity costs. Could we not suggest that the regions put whatever savings they gleaned from the $15,000,000 investment into a green energy fund? When the fund is big enough, they can start upgrading other buildings. The savings will get bigger, so the fund will grow faster. Just something to think about.

[Oakvale]

Vote on the Motion to Table

Aye (0):
Nay (5): Averroës Nix, Ben, Franzl, HagridOfTheDeep and NC YAnkee
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (4): jdb, JulioMadrid, Oakvale and Spamage (WTF?!!!!)
Vacant Seats (1): Roy Barnes 2010

The motion has failed.


Senators have 48 hours to object to Ben's assumption of sponsorship.

I think I was under the assumption that motioning to table constitutes an "Aye" vote on said motion by default.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Vote on the Motion to Table

Aye (0):
Nay (5): Averroës Nix, Ben, Franzl, HagridOfTheDeep and NC YAnkee
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (4): jdb, JulioMadrid, Oakvale and Spamage (WTF?!!!!)
Vacant Seats (1): Roy Barnes 2010

The motion has failed.


Senators have 48 hours to object to Ben's assumption of sponsorship.

I think I was under the assumption that motioning to table constitutes an "Aye" vote on said motion by default.

I am not aware of such a standard.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

While this bill doesn't involve a huge sum of money, I'm not willing to support it until someone has presented a sound justification for this spending.

Ben, since you are sponsor now, could you offer an answer?

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Sure.  One of the biggest obstacles to going green at a regional level is the cost.  This legislation appropriates a relatively small amount of money to aid regions moving forward.  It's a common sense bill.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Is the Senator satisfied with the response? (come on this exchange should take a day tops, not six).

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Picking up on what Nix said about not sure what "going green" means, I would strongly recommend that clear standards be set up to clarfiy what is meant by both green and energy efficient. Otherwise you'll have coal fired furnaces being claimed as green and the gov't defrauded.

I can't believe that I just wrote most of this while not looking at either the keyboard or the monitor.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

An amendment:

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