Will Kasich get primaried over taking the Medicaid expansion?
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« on: February 06, 2013, 01:23:20 AM »

I've been perusing the conservative Internets lately looking at the Right's take on Governor Kasich's "sell out." The comment sections inevitably call for a "real conservative" to take out Kasich. Is a True Believer going to field a primary challenge? And if so, does this make it easier for the Democrats to win back that seat in 2014?
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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2013, 01:27:08 AM »

I don't believe there is a serious Tea Party guy in Ohio. I mean, Kasich ran as "Tea Party before there was a Tea Party".
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2013, 04:00:47 AM »

Kasich is smart. He knows than the problem will be the general, not the primary and than taking the expansion will help him in the general (but not in the primary).
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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2013, 10:48:06 AM »

Looks like a Republican pulled out a calculator and actually did some math for a change. 
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2013, 12:20:36 PM »

Government subsidization of retirees' health care is fine, but for poor people? That's socialism!
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2013, 05:02:34 PM »

No.
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2013, 06:28:45 PM »

Besides, who is going to run against him from the right? Mike Dewine? The guy, in this day and age, is a moderate republican by all means. Rob Portman? probably wouldn't be suited to be an executive, seems much more of a legislator if anything. Ken Blackwell? a joke.
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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2013, 08:04:22 PM »

Besides, who is going to run against him from the right? Mike Dewine? The guy, in this day and age, is a moderate republican by all means. Rob Portman? probably wouldn't be suited to be an executive, seems much more of a legislator if anything. Ken Blackwell? a joke.

What about some Ron Johnson-type businessman with no prior political connections?
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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2013, 08:12:51 PM »

Besides, who is going to run against him from the right? Mike Dewine? The guy, in this day and age, is a moderate republican by all means. Rob Portman? probably wouldn't be suited to be an executive, seems much more of a legislator if anything. Ken Blackwell? a joke.

What about some Ron Johnson-type businessman with no prior political connections?

That's a distinct possibility, but I think Kasich has enough sway with conservative republicans that I think that this isn't going to have much effect. Plus, Kasich's approvals are on the up now, so I think he's not dead in the waters like a Rick Scott or Paul LePage.
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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2013, 12:55:58 AM »

I highly doubt it. First off Kasich is too popular for people to be lining up in a primary. Second, if you look around at the type of Republicans in office in Ohio, most are establishment types rather than Tea Partiers. The most notable Tea Partier in Ohio is probably Jim Jordan and he's not about to throw out a safe congressional district for as long as he wants it to primary a sitting governor.

The sentiment in the Ohio GOP is that we pushed too far with Senate Bill 5 and really don't want to get burned again. And the a decent portion of the Republican voters also voted to strike that down, along with substantial legislators. There's just not that much room to Kasich's right that he needs to worry.
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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2013, 09:55:54 AM »


This. There were some serious tea party primary candidate for state office (e.g. Auditor) in the TP's high water mark of 2010, and they were soundly beaten by establishment candidates.
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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2013, 04:51:11 PM »

Kasich is a dead man walking, so I don't think it really matters.
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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2013, 08:14:57 PM »

Kasich is a dead man walking, so I don't think it really matters.

I'll be the dummy and bite this time.

The man's numbers have been a consistent upward slope since the beginning of his term. Now he's 45-40 approvals and the trend is upward. How is that a dead man walking? Do you just say things to get people to respond to you?
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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2013, 06:30:40 AM »

I don't think Kasich is necessarily DOA, but he's going to get a very strong Democratic challenge next year. He definitely doesn't have to worry about a primary challenge, even with his decision on Medicaid. That's a move looking towards the general election. I think it's a shame Strickland isn't running again, as I think he could win the governor's mansion in 2014. Kasich will still be highly vulnerable no matter what happens, but he's not DOA.
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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2013, 08:34:52 PM »

Probably not.

Which other GOP Governors have taken it?--NV, AZ, NM, VA, who else?
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« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2013, 09:24:29 PM »
« Edited: February 10, 2013, 09:29:56 PM by greenforest32 »

Probably not.

Which other GOP Governors have taken it?--NV, AZ, NM, VA, who else?

I don't think McDonnell supports it (he spoke against an expansion in his 2013 state of the state address in January). Otherwise the current number of Republican governors in support is 6 (NV, AZ, NM, ND, OH, MI): http://www.advisory.com/MedicaidMap

Not sure which way the remaining undecided GOP governors (AK, FL, IN, KS, NC, TN, UT, WI) will go. Haslam (TN) said similar things to McDonnell iirc and I wonder about McCrory (NC) considering he appointed Art Pope as budget director and the talk of abolishing the state income tax. Florida might be similar to Michigan and Ohio as Rick Scott has recently switched from hard opposition to iffy and the expansion polls relatively well there.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-02-08/news/os-scott-tiger-bay-speech-20130208_1_medicaid-expansion-expansion-cost-scott

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