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Question: Do you support Obama's proposal to increase the minimum wage?
Yes, but $9 is not enough.   -35 (42.2%)
Yes, its about right.   -24 (28.9%)
No, but we should keep it as it is.   -10 (12%)
No, and we should eliminate the minimum wage.   -14 (16.9%)
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Total Voters: 83

Author Topic: Minimum wage increase from $7.25 to $9.00 per hour  (Read 4591 times)
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« Reply #100 on: February 22, 2013, 07:11:53 pm »
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Probably slightly on the side of not enough, however; the transition to that or higher could be just as damaging to the poor and unlike Opebo, I am not out for revenge or something of that sort especially when it comes at the expense of the very people it aims to help.

I probably lean towards supporting the proposal then.

There's no evidence that a higher minimum wage causes unemployment.

I don't recall saying it did. But I am sure if you jack them up high enough, quickly enough, common sense alone would say that employment would be impacted. Of course I doubt that such a scenario has been tested. I for one, don't want to find out by actually trying it. Which is why I support the proposal.

A proposal in the MN legislature would raise the minimum wage in the state from $6.15, below the federal minimum, to $9.50/hour.

The local Chamber of Commerce president sent a survey to area businesses asking whether such a rise would impact them.  3/4 of businesses said it would not.  Half of business owners said it would impact the community positively.

It's time to raise the minimum wage.  During the 1960s, the minimum wage was increased numerous times... and the '60s were a decade of prosperity and robust economic growth with low inflation.

When you put more money into the hands of poor workers, it better ables us to take care of those who might lose their job or see their hours reduced as a result in the rise.

You mean the state level statute, correct? For some reason I doubt that Minnesota would have a exemption from the federal rate, even if such were possible. Call it a hunch. Wink

And yet it is time. Had it been risen more aggressively in the 2000's, perhaps some things would have been different and we might be at $9.00 by now.

Yes.  $6.15 is the state minimum wage.  Only businesses wholly contained within the state are allowed to pay that rate... along with tipped employees, since the federal wage is so low for tipped employees and MN doesn't allow any wage under the state minimum.

This graph is interesting.  If we tied the minimum wage to productivity, we'd be much better off today.


Instead, the right thinks it's alright to pay people less money to do more work.  That a falling standard of living is a-okay as long as profits are high!
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« Reply #101 on: February 22, 2013, 07:53:17 pm »
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This graph is interesting.  If we tied the minimum wage to productivity, we'd be much better off today.


Instead, the right thinks it's alright to pay people less money to do more work.  That a falling standard of living is a-okay as long as profits are high!

Its extremely bizarre to hear an argument that basically promotes feudalism, but I think if the Tea Party types had their way then that's where we would be. Economically and culturally feudalist.
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« Reply #102 on: February 23, 2013, 03:46:45 am »
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The problem with Snowguy's analysis is that it assumes that productivity for minimum wage workers tracks overall productivity. There's ample evidence that it doesn't.
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« Reply #103 on: February 23, 2013, 03:51:03 am »
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The problem with Snowguy's analysis is that it assumes that productivity for minimum wage workers tracks overall productivity. There's ample evidence that it doesn't.

The inequity, if it exists in any significant amount, certainly would have grown under Reagan much in the same way Snowguy's data shows. The US created real problems adopting Reaganomics and if we continue to affirm those policies we won't be doing ourselves any favors.
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« Reply #104 on: February 23, 2013, 10:19:55 am »
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The problem with Snowguy's analysis is that it assumes that productivity for minimum wage workers tracks overall productivity. There's ample evidence that it doesn't.

Could you link some evidence please?
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« Reply #105 on: February 23, 2013, 03:10:31 pm »
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Graph of the relative income distribution in Australia, Germany, Sweden, Brazil, United States and Thailand.
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« Reply #106 on: February 23, 2013, 03:13:30 pm »
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Minimum wage is over $10 here now. One of the few good things the McGuinty government did, although it was the NDP's idea. The minimum wage should be fixed to the poverty line.
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« Reply #107 on: February 23, 2013, 04:10:12 pm »
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Minimum wage is over $10 here now. One of the few good things the McGuinty government did, although it was the NDP's idea. The minimum wage should be fixed to the poverty line.

Well then it would be around $8, but i absolutely agree that it should be fixed there, meaning increasing to inflation.
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« Reply #108 on: February 24, 2013, 11:54:50 am »
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Correlation doesn't necessarily imply causation, but I thought this should be posted.
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« Reply #109 on: February 27, 2013, 11:59:22 am »
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Eighty votes is pretty good...
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