Legislation Introduction Thread

[Jake]

That is much better Sam

[MAS117]

Mr. President, I ask consent to be named as a Co-Sponsor to Sam Spades recent bill of the Freedom Acts of 2005.

[MAS117]

Perserving the Name Bill[/u]

Clause I[/u]
Despite his name change to "Mike Naso," Mr. Naso can and still be always refered to has either Chief of Staff Mike Naso or Senator Senator Mike Naso (until the end of his Senate term).

Clause II[/u]
Despite his name change, all official Atlasian Gov't documents will refer to "Mike Naso" as Chief of Staff Mike Naso.

I am willing to take Co-Sponsors on this bill.

[MAS117]

I ask that my must recent bill go directly to a vote.

[12th Doctor]

Perserving the Name Bill[/u]

Clause I[/u]
Despite his name change to "Mike Naso," Mr. Naso can and still be always refered to has either Chief of Staff Mike Naso or Senator Senator Mike Naso (until the end of his Senate term).

Clause II[/u]
Despite his name change, all official Atlasian Gov't documents will refer to "Mike Naso" as Chief of Staff Mike Naso.

I am willing to take Co-Sponsors on this bill.

MAS, don't be a dumb ass.  I know that can be hard for you sometimes, as you tend to be an overly critical and hot tempered individual.

Hey, guess what?  Naso is a Senator, he was elected, like it or not, so lay-off assholes.  His vote counts for just as much as yours and his voice is just as important as yours.  So, here's a novel idea, why not try to work with him?  Cause this is getting old real quick.  Eventually, you guys are going to have to grow up, so you could take a step in the right direction and start now.

[Reaganfan]

Enough is enough. The joke is getting old.

[12th Doctor]

MAS, don't be a dumb ass.  I know that can be hard for you sometimes, as you tend to be an overly critical and hot tempered individual.

Hey, guess what?  Naso is a Senator, he was elected, like it or not, so lay-off assholes.  His vote counts for just as much as yours and his voice is just as important as yours.  So, here's a novel idea, why not try to work with him?  Cause this is getting old real quick.  Eventually, you guys are going to have to grow up, so you could take a step in the right direction and start now.

I wish I could work with him, but he doesn't read the legislation, he has no idea how the Senate actually works and doesn't even seem to want to know how the Senate works. 

It's clear to me that to "Senator" Naso, being elected and making an idiot out of himself are the only things he's interested in, because he certainly has no idea what's going on in here and doesn't even try to.

That being said, this legislation makes you look really childish MAS, and doesn't belong here.  You should put in the fantasy elections board as a joke, not as real legislation.  We've got much more important work to do here, "Senator" MAS.

Help him learn, don't just mock him.  I taught you something you didn't know today, after all.

[Sam Spade]

Property Tax Act of 2005

Clause #1
Property Taxes for all of Atlasia will be lowered by 4.16% a month for one year. This will come to a lowering of 50% for all property taxes in Atlasia by 2006.

Clause #2
After a year, the act will be replenished with new facts, and figures.

There are no federal property taxes, "Senator".  Normally, only local city and county jurisdictions have property taxes.  Occasionally states do it, but that's only for school districts, I think.  In Texas, for examples, it was only local jurisdictions.

[King]

Regulating non-federal tax rates is clearly unconstitutional...

[MAS117]

I withdraw "Preserving the Name Bill"

[Gabu]

Tax Relief Act of 2005

Clause #1
For all of Atlasia, taxes will be lowered for all by 50% in the timespan of a year.

Clause #2
For the spending cuts needed to pass this bill, I propose spending cuts on each of the following bills:

~The Health Care Reform Act of 2004
~The Atlasia Concealed Firearm Act of 2004
~The Welfare Reform Bill

Unless the spending cuts on those bills equal half of the total spending of the government, you're asking for MASSIVE deficits if this is implemented.

[Reaganfan]

Yes indeed. Not excessive spending cuts.

[A18]

Yes indeed. Not excessive spending cuts.

Um, those three acts do not constitute roughly one half of the federal budget.

The only way your proposed tax cut would really work is if you abolished almost every non-military function of the government.

[Reaganfan]

We can cut down the percentage of tax cuts. The Senate is a team. Let's work on some ideas as a team. How does...35% tax cuts sound?

[A18]

Yeah. Now you only have to cut roughly 35% of the federal budget.

I would suggest a flat tax of 19%, allowing only for personal exemptions. This would ensure that the rich pay their fair share (no loopholes), lead the way for rapid economic growth, and likely shrink unemployment.

[Gabu]

Yes indeed. Not excessive spending cuts.

You appear to have missed my point: there is no way in heck those three bills make up half of the spending of the government, so even if you abolished them entirely, you still wouldn't make up for the revenue hit taken from lowering taxes by 50%.

We can cut down the percentage of tax cuts. The Senate is a team. Let's work on some ideas as a team. How does...35% tax cuts sound?

Even at 35%, those bills don't account for 35% of total government spending.  Heck, do they account for 1% of total government spending?  0.5%?  I think we'd to need to slash an awful lot more than just those three bills.

If you want to cut taxes by 35%, Sam Spade is doing a fantastic job in the budget thread; look there to see what all of the spending amounts are currently to find out what we could cut.

[Reaganfan]

The tax cuts could go at 25%. How does that sound?

[A18]

The tax cuts could go at 25%. How does that sound?

That's still not low enough for the three bills you laid out.

A 19% income tax would cut taxes on the emerging upper class. I would suggest an exemption of about $35,000 for a family of four, only because it's a number very often cited in article such as Heritage and CATO.

More importantly, the rate could be lowered in future years to about 13%, as in Russia.

[King]

Tax Relief Act of 2005

Clause #1
For all of Atlasia, taxes will be lowered for all by 50% in the timespan of a year.

Clause #2
For the spending cuts needed to pass this bill, I propose spending cuts on each of the following bills:

~The Health Care Reform Act of 2004
~The Atlasia Concealed Firearm Act of 2004
~The Welfare Reform Bill

This is definately going into FahrenheitNASO II.

[King]

The tax cuts could go at 25%. How does that sound?

That's still not low enough for the three bills you laid out.

A 19% income tax would cut taxes on the emerging upper class. I would suggest an exemption of about $35,000 for a family of four, only because it's a number very often cited in article such as Heritage and CATO.

More importantly, the rate could be lowered in future years to about 13%, as in Russia.

A18 should be the D3 Senator here...he at least has a brain.

[King]

To pay for a 50% Tax Cut we must:
[li]Abolish the military.[/li]
[li]Abolish social security.[/li]
[li]Abolish medicare.[/li]
[li]Cut welfare benefits by 75%.[/li]
[/list]

Very minor changes to the government.

[King]

The tax cuts could go at 25%. How does that sound?

That's still not low enough for the three bills you laid out.

A 19% income tax would cut taxes on the emerging upper class. I would suggest an exemption of about $35,000 for a family of four, only because it's a number very often cited in article such as Heritage and CATO.

More importantly, the rate could be lowered in future years to about 13%, as in Russia.

A18 should be the D3 Senator here...he at least has a brain.

We had that opportunity, but he didn't even get a single vote - not even from himself.

It's rare moments of brilliance like this that make me wonder if putting a troll in office might actually be worth it.

Depends on the troll...

[John Dibble]

Could we, oh, I don't know, leave this thread for legislation introduction and nothing else. I know it's a lot to ask, being that you all must get the last word in and all, but it would probably be much appreciated.

[Gabu]

Could we, oh, I don't know, leave this thread for legislation introduction and nothing else. I know it's a lot to ask, being that you all must get the last word in and all, but it would probably be much appreciated.

I've given up attempting to regulate this thead.  It just doesn't work.

[Reaganfan]

OK....a 10% tax cut. Does that work?