SENATE BILL: The DoEA 'South Beach' Act of 2013 (Law'd)
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« on: February 19, 2013, 03:43:24 AM »
« edited: March 01, 2013, 08:12:41 AM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2013, 03:45:36 AM »

Senator you have 24 hours to start advocating for this?

I have been informed of a desire on the part of the SoEA to get this and combine it with the Atkins Act, is the sponsor on board with merging the two bills?
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2013, 03:47:00 AM »

This bill was put forth by my administration, so I will obviously be voting in favor. I'll allow SJoyce to advocate the bill before I enter any discussion on its merits.

As for merging the two bills- that's ultimately up to Senator Ben, but I would support the move.
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2013, 07:53:04 AM »

This bill was introduced on behalf of the SoEA.  It's a way to save some money on our defense budget, without really harming our national security.  I'll also introduce this amendment, per the wishes of the SoEA:

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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2013, 02:25:01 PM »
« Edited: February 19, 2013, 02:28:20 PM by SoEA SJoyce »

It's a way to save some money on our defense budget, without really harming our national security. 

Basically this. It saves us money (some of which is reinvested in other capable programs) without having any kind of major security impact. My testimony on the risks this could create can be found in the NSC's thread.


Despite looking cool, the LCS project has been plagued by cost overruns, botched contracting, and delays. This makes reductions in that program in order to control costs; it will pose little to no security concerns because much of the money saved is reinvested in Arleigh Burke-class destroyers, which (although somewhat slower and with a deeper draft) has more surface-to-surface and anti-air capabilities and will be fully capable in its assigned missions, particularly when used in conjunction with the LCS we do build, as well as the planned next-generation systems that we do not plan any cuts to (such as the Ford-class carriers, the Virginia-class submarines, and the F-22 Raptor). Alternative forward basing and crew rotation models can mitigate the impact on operations having a smaller surface fleet would cause.
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2013, 02:40:36 PM »

I am not yet and may never be Secretary of External Affairs but if I may chime in...

My one issue with this bill is the following line-
4. In FY15, Army active duty troop strength would be reduced to 482,000, Marine Corps active duty troop strength to 175,000, and the reserves would be reduced by 6,200 troops.

Which reserves are you referring to? Evenly divided across?
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2013, 02:48:54 PM »

My one issue with this bill is the following line-
4. In FY15, Army active duty troop strength would be reduced to 482,000, Marine Corps active duty troop strength to 175,000, and the reserves would be reduced by 6,200 troops.

Which reserves are you referring to? Evenly divided across?

Army & Marine Corps Reserves; proportional to their current size.
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2013, 02:59:46 PM »

My one issue with this bill is the following line-
4. In FY15, Army active duty troop strength would be reduced to 482,000, Marine Corps active duty troop strength to 175,000, and the reserves would be reduced by 6,200 troops.

Which reserves are you referring to? Evenly divided across?

Army & Marine Corps Reserves; proportional to their current size.
Alright- thanks!
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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2013, 07:11:27 AM »

You are lucky that you got into nuts an bolts so quickly. Those intial statements were so void of substance, I could see right through them to China. Tongue
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2013, 07:14:40 AM »

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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2013, 06:18:58 AM »

The amendment has been adopted.

Is that all here?


This is the third time I have attempted to post this.
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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2013, 09:55:43 AM »

I'm ready for a final vote.
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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2013, 09:58:16 AM »

Senators, this bill is now at final vote, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2013, 10:04:11 AM »

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« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2013, 10:36:51 AM »

AYE
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« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2013, 12:20:19 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2013, 01:57:17 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2013, 02:33:35 PM »

Aye.
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« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2013, 05:26:41 AM »

AYE!!!
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« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2013, 07:11:31 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2013, 05:56:48 AM »

Vote on Final Passage of The DoEA 'South Beach' Act of 2013:

Aye (Cool: Averroës Nix, Ben, HagridoftheDeep, jdb, Napoleon, NC Yankee, Oakvale and Spamage
Nay (0):
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (2): Franzl and JulioMadrid

The bill has passed the Senate and is presented to the President for executive action.
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« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2013, 05:58:27 AM »

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« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2013, 11:54:55 PM »

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