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« on: February 24, 2013, 11:22:01 PM »
« edited: February 24, 2013, 11:28:41 PM by I See Everything »

Country
Pop
Post-grunge
Pop Punk
Hardcore Punk
Metalcore
Christian Hardcore*
Christian Contemporary
Classical
Heavy Metal
Death Metal
Black Metal
Post-hardcore
Grindcore
Emoviolence
Christian Emoviolence**
Reggae
Indie Rock
Electronic
Classic Rock
Post-Rock

*It is worth nothing that there is actually a Christian "sound" in hardcore that is slightly different from non-Christian bands, so there is a musical differentiation, not just lyrical content. It's more moshy and has a far higher percentage of songs consisting of breakdowns.
**This includes about six bands total, none of which are active today.
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2013, 10:58:12 PM »

Country - Strong R
Pop- Slight Dem lean due to the how young the demographic; probably close to the national average
Post-grunge- Dem or Libertarian
Pop Punk Same as the Pop genre
Hardcore Punk Dem leaning but also a large Libertarian streak
Metalcore Anti-authority so probably Libertarian
Christian Hardcore- I'm going to guess and sat Republican but a bit more moderate
Christian Contemporary- Super Republican
Classical- Democratic due to the large amount of academic/professor types that usually like classical
Heavy Metal- Democratic overall
Death Metal Democratic
Black Metal- Don't know what this is
Post-hardcore- I'm guessing Dem
Grindcore- Also have no idea what this is
Emoviolence- Whichever candidate is the most Emo
Christian Emoviolence- Republican
Reggae- Dem or Green party
Indie Rock- Super Dem
Electronic- Very Dem
Classic Rock- Lean Republican
Post-Rock- Lean Dem
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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2013, 01:34:39 AM »

Country- Strongly Republican
Pop- Lean Democrat
Post-grunge- Split
Pop Punk- Lean Democrat
Hardcore Punk- Strongly Democrat
Metalcore- Idk
Christian Hardcore*- Idk
Christian Contemporary- Strongly Republican
Classical- Split
Heavy Metal- Republican
Death Metal- Republican
Black Metal- Republican
Post-hardcore- Strongly Democrat
Grindcore- Idk
Emoviolence- Idk
Christian Emoviolence**- I don't care
Reggae- Democrat
Indie Rock- Strongly Democrat
Electronic- Democrat
Classic Rock- Republican
Post-Rock- Lean Democratic

I don't listen to any of the music that Republicans listen to haha.
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2013, 01:36:27 AM »

Classical- Democratic due to the large amount of academic/professor types that usually like classical

I'd actually say that classical is Lean R despite its intellectual bent, seeing as the largest audience is still country club olds.  Go to your local symphony, and the ads in the program are going to mostly be for "active living senior communities" and trust funds.  Oh, and luxury cars.

The musicians themselves, of course, are about super-safe D as can be.
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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2013, 07:45:00 PM »

Country- Strong Republican
Pop- Democrat
Post-grunge- Democrat
Pop Punk- Strong Democrat
Hardcore Punk- Strong Democrat
Metalcore- Strong Democrat, but with some Libertarian mixed in as well
Christian Hardcore- Lean Democrat
Christian Contemporary- Lean Republican (not Strong R since many fundamentalist denominations, mine included, are against it)
Classical- Strong Democrat
Heavy Metal- Democrat
Death Metal- Democrat
Black Metal- Strong Democrat
Post-hardcore- Democrat
Grindcore- Democrat
Emoviolence- Democrat
Christian Emoviolence- Lean Democrat
Reggae- Strong Democrat, but with some Libertarians and Greens mixed in.
Indie Rock- Strong Democrat
Electronic- Democrat
Classic Rock- About even, maybe Lean Democrat (Republican if I'm any indicator)
Post-Rock- Democrat

Classical- Democratic due to the large amount of academic/professor types that usually like classical

I'd actually say that classical is Lean R despite its intellectual bent, seeing as the largest audience is still country club olds.  Go to your local symphony, and the ads in the program are going to mostly be for "active living senior communities" and trust funds.  Oh, and luxury cars.

The musicians themselves, of course, are about super-safe D as can be.
So are the country club olds you mentioned.
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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2013, 08:20:15 PM »

Classical- Democratic due to the large amount of academic/professor types that usually like classical

I'd actually say that classical is Lean R despite its intellectual bent, seeing as the largest audience is still country club olds.  Go to your local symphony, and the ads in the program are going to mostly be for "active living senior communities" and trust funds.  Oh, and luxury cars.

The musicians themselves, of course, are about super-safe D as can be.
So are the country club olds you mentioned.

Not if my family is any indication.  And they're from New Jersey, where one would expect to find a higher-than-average percentage of liberals among country club olds.
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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2013, 08:28:42 PM »

Fans of modernist classical music, however, are obviously quite Democratic.  We have the best taste and the best smarts, after all.

But y'all underestimate the percentage of classical music fans who think that everything went to sh!t after Debussy and Mahler, if not decades previous.  And who, when it comes to popular music, still haven't quite cottoned to the infernal noise of those young whippersnappers from Liverpool.  "I Want To Hold Your Hand?"  The carnal effrontery!
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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2013, 07:46:23 AM »

Country- Strong Republican
Pop- Democrat
Post-grunge- Democrat
Pop Punk- Strong Democrat
Hardcore Punk- Strong Democrat
Metalcore- Strong Democrat, but with some Libertarian mixed in as well
Christian Hardcore- Lean Democrat
Christian Contemporary- Lean Republican (not Strong R since many fundamentalist denominations, mine included, are against it)
Classical- Strong Democrat
Heavy Metal- Democrat
Death Metal- Democrat
Black Metal- Strong Democrat
Post-hardcore- Democrat
Grindcore- Democrat
Emoviolence- Democrat
Christian Emoviolence- Lean Democrat
Reggae- Strong Democrat, but with some Libertarians and Greens mixed in.
Indie Rock- Strong Democrat
Electronic- Democrat
Classic Rock- About even, maybe Lean Democrat (Republican if I'm any indicator)
Post-Rock- Democrat

Classical- Democratic due to the large amount of academic/professor types that usually like classical

I'd actually say that classical is Lean R despite its intellectual bent, seeing as the largest audience is still country club olds.  Go to your local symphony, and the ads in the program are going to mostly be for "active living senior communities" and trust funds.  Oh, and luxury cars.

The musicians themselves, of course, are about super-safe D as can be.
So are the country club olds you mentioned.

So Republicans basically listen to nothing but country?
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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2013, 08:55:39 AM »

Classical- Democratic due to the large amount of academic/professor types that usually like classical

I'd actually say that classical is Lean R despite its intellectual bent, seeing as the largest audience is still country club olds.  Go to your local symphony, and the ads in the program are going to mostly be for "active living senior communities" and trust funds.  Oh, and luxury cars.

The musicians themselves, of course, are about super-safe D as can be.
So are the country club olds you mentioned.

Not if my family is any indication.  And they're from New Jersey, where one would expect to find a higher-than-average percentage of liberals among country club olds.
Your family is probably not any indication.
Country- Strong Republican
Pop- Democrat
Post-grunge- Democrat
Pop Punk- Strong Democrat
Hardcore Punk- Strong Democrat
Metalcore- Strong Democrat, but with some Libertarian mixed in as well
Christian Hardcore- Lean Democrat
Christian Contemporary- Lean Republican (not Strong R since many fundamentalist denominations, mine included, are against it)
Classical- Strong Democrat
Heavy Metal- Democrat
Death Metal- Democrat
Black Metal- Strong Democrat
Post-hardcore- Democrat
Grindcore- Democrat
Emoviolence- Democrat
Christian Emoviolence- Lean Democrat
Reggae- Strong Democrat, but with some Libertarians and Greens mixed in.
Indie Rock- Strong Democrat
Electronic- Democrat
Classic Rock- About even, maybe Lean Democrat (Republican if I'm any indicator)
Post-Rock- Democrat

Classical- Democratic due to the large amount of academic/professor types that usually like classical

I'd actually say that classical is Lean R despite its intellectual bent, seeing as the largest audience is still country club olds.  Go to your local symphony, and the ads in the program are going to mostly be for "active living senior communities" and trust funds.  Oh, and luxury cars.

The musicians themselves, of course, are about super-safe D as can be.
So are the country club olds you mentioned.

So Republicans basically listen to nothing but country?
Yep.  Most musicians outside of country tend to be very liberal, so I don't see why very many people who aren't liberals would listen to their music.
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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2013, 07:32:31 PM »

Classical- Democratic due to the large amount of academic/professor types that usually like classical

I'd actually say that classical is Lean R despite its intellectual bent, seeing as the largest audience is still country club olds.  Go to your local symphony, and the ads in the program are going to mostly be for "active living senior communities" and trust funds.  Oh, and luxury cars.

The musicians themselves, of course, are about super-safe D as can be.
So are the country club olds you mentioned.

Not if my family is any indication.  And they're from New Jersey, where one would expect to find a higher-than-average percentage of liberals among country club olds.
Your family is probably not any indication.
Country- Strong Republican
Pop- Democrat
Post-grunge- Democrat
Pop Punk- Strong Democrat
Hardcore Punk- Strong Democrat
Metalcore- Strong Democrat, but with some Libertarian mixed in as well
Christian Hardcore- Lean Democrat
Christian Contemporary- Lean Republican (not Strong R since many fundamentalist denominations, mine included, are against it)
Classical- Strong Democrat
Heavy Metal- Democrat
Death Metal- Democrat
Black Metal- Strong Democrat
Post-hardcore- Democrat
Grindcore- Democrat
Emoviolence- Democrat
Christian Emoviolence- Lean Democrat
Reggae- Strong Democrat, but with some Libertarians and Greens mixed in.
Indie Rock- Strong Democrat
Electronic- Democrat
Classic Rock- About even, maybe Lean Democrat (Republican if I'm any indicator)
Post-Rock- Democrat

Classical- Democratic due to the large amount of academic/professor types that usually like classical

I'd actually say that classical is Lean R despite its intellectual bent, seeing as the largest audience is still country club olds.  Go to your local symphony, and the ads in the program are going to mostly be for "active living senior communities" and trust funds.  Oh, and luxury cars.

The musicians themselves, of course, are about super-safe D as can be.
So are the country club olds you mentioned.

So Republicans basically listen to nothing but country?
Yep.  Most musicians outside of country tend to be very liberal, so I don't see why very many people who aren't liberals would listen to their music.

lol. I suppose they don't watch TV, movies or read books either (except Christian ones). Hell, they probably don't use taxis, schools or software either.
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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2013, 10:25:15 PM »
« Edited: March 01, 2013, 07:13:43 PM by Governor Scott »

Classical- Democratic due to the large amount of academic/professor types that usually like classical

I'd actually say that classical is Lean R despite its intellectual bent, seeing as the largest audience is still country club olds.  Go to your local symphony, and the ads in the program are going to mostly be for "active living senior communities" and trust funds.  Oh, and luxury cars.

The musicians themselves, of course, are about super-safe D as can be.
So are the country club olds you mentioned.

Not if my family is any indication.  And they're from New Jersey, where one would expect to find a higher-than-average percentage of liberals among country club olds.
Your family is probably not any indication.
Country- Strong Republican
Pop- Democrat
Post-grunge- Democrat
Pop Punk- Strong Democrat
Hardcore Punk- Strong Democrat
Metalcore- Strong Democrat, but with some Libertarian mixed in as well
Christian Hardcore- Lean Democrat
Christian Contemporary- Lean Republican (not Strong R since many fundamentalist denominations, mine included, are against it)
Classical- Strong Democrat
Heavy Metal- Democrat
Death Metal- Democrat
Black Metal- Strong Democrat
Post-hardcore- Democrat
Grindcore- Democrat
Emoviolence- Democrat
Christian Emoviolence- Lean Democrat
Reggae- Strong Democrat, but with some Libertarians and Greens mixed in.
Indie Rock- Strong Democrat
Electronic- Democrat
Classic Rock- About even, maybe Lean Democrat (Republican if I'm any indicator)
Post-Rock- Democrat

Classical- Democratic due to the large amount of academic/professor types that usually like classical

I'd actually say that classical is Lean R despite its intellectual bent, seeing as the largest audience is still country club olds.  Go to your local symphony, and the ads in the program are going to mostly be for "active living senior communities" and trust funds.  Oh, and luxury cars.

The musicians themselves, of course, are about super-safe D as can be.
So are the country club olds you mentioned.

So Republicans basically listen to nothing but country?
Yep.  Most musicians outside of country tend to be very liberal, so I don't see why very many people who aren't liberals would listen to their music.

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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2013, 06:49:26 PM »

Classic rock, as the domain of mostly middle age white males, is almost certainly pretty Republican given that group voted about 2:1 for Romney.
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« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2013, 06:21:31 PM »

Country: Strong GOP
Pop: Lean Dem
Post-grunge: Lean Dem
Pop Punk: Lean Dem
Hardcore Punk: Strong Dem/Libertarian
Metalcore: Strong Dem
Christian Hardcore: Lean GOP
Christian Contemporary: Strong GOP
Classical: Swing? maybe lean Dem by just a hair..
Heavy Metal: Strong Dem
Death Metal: Strong Dem
Black Metal: Strong Dem
Post-hardcore: Lean Dem
Grindcore: Strong Dem
Emoviolence: Strong Dem
Christian Emoviolence: Lean GOP
Reggae: Strong Dem
Indie Rock: Strong Dem
Electronic: Strong Dem
Classic Rock: Lean GOP maybe strong..
Post-Rock: Lean Dem
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« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2013, 06:55:07 PM »

Seems BRTD missed a lot of genres. What abot Jazz (any difference between subgenres?), Blues, Zydeco, Bluegrass, Soul, RnB, Folk, and World Music/Ethnic?
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« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2013, 08:47:33 PM »

Country - Republican
Pop - Moderate/Lean Dem
Post-grunge - Dem/Libertarian
Pop Punk - Democrat
Hardcore Punk - Dem/Libertarian
Metalcore - Dem/Libertarian
Christian Hardcore - Never heard of this
Christian Contemporary - Republican
Classical - Democrat
Heavy Metal - Democrat
Death Metal - Dem/Libertarian
Black Metal - Never heard of this
Post-hardcore - Democrat
Grindcore - Never heard of this
Emoviolence - Dem/Libertarian
Christian Emoviolence - Are you sure this exists?
Reggae - Dem/Green/Libertarian
Indie Rock - Very Democrat
Electronic - Democrat
Classic Rock - Republican
Post-Rock - Unsure
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« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2013, 09:47:06 PM »

Christian Emoviolence - Are you sure this exists?

Absolutely. Examples: Sinking Steps...Rising Eyes, Lights of Nero, Edict of Milan, Fable, A Promise of Restoration
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« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2013, 10:11:07 PM »

Country: Strongly Republican
Pop: Lean Democratic
Post-grunge: Libertarain?
Pop Punk: Lean Democratic
Hardcore Punk: Strongly Democratic
Metalcore: Libertarian
Christian Hardcore: Lean Republican?
Christian Contemporary: Strongly Republican
Classical: Lean Republican
Heavy Metal: Republican
Death Metal: Republican?
Black Metal: Republican?
Post-hardcore: Strongly Democratic
Grindcore: Libertarian?
Emoviolence: Democratic?
Christian Emoviolence: Lean Republican?
Reggae: Democratic
Indie Rock: Strongly Democratic
Electronic: Democratic
Classic Rock: Lean Republican
Post-Rock: Lean Democratic

FTR, most of the songs I listen to would fall under the Classic Rock category.
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« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2013, 10:51:52 AM »

Country - strong gop
Pop - depends on sub-genre; Taylor Swift - strong GOP; Katy Perry - leans GOP; Madonna - leans Dem; Lady Gaga - strongly democratic
Post-grunge - lean GOP
Pop Punk - lean GOP
Hardcore Punk - lean GOP
Metalcore - GOP
Christian Hardcore* - strong GOP
Christian Contemporary - ridiculoulsy GOP
Classical - toss-up
Heavy Metal - GOP
Death Metal - scary nihilistic rightwingers
Black Metal - scary nihilistic rightwingers
Post-hardcore - GOP
Grindcore - GOP
Emoviolence - GOP
Christian Emoviolence** - strong GOP
Reggae - strong Dem/green
Indie Rock - lean Dem
Electronic - lean Dem
Classic Rock - GOP
Post-Rock - GOP

*It is worth nothing that there is actually a Christian "sound" in hardcore that is slightly different from non-Christian bands, so there is a musical differentiation, not just lyrical content. It's more moshy and has a far higher percentage of songs consisting of breakdowns.
**This includes about six bands total, none of which are active today.


mostly white people music, no? Given the demographics, I would say most of the above probably lean GOP.

What about rhythm and blues, jazz, gospel, motown, rap, Spanish pop, salsa, world music, and K-pop?
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« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2013, 12:26:14 PM »

Breaking down various forms of metal and "core" genres by voting habit is as useless as doing so for most sub-sets of hip-hop (e.g. krunk, southern, east coast, etc.).

Suffice to say that Christian and Country music fans vote overwhelmingly Republican. Almost as much as classic rock, an overwhelming white, middle-aged (or older), and skews male. "Pop", to the extent it isn't "urban", is heavily white female, and thus largely dependant on age, running from probably mixed voting for younger voters to notably (but not overwhelimingly) GOP for listeners closer to middle-age.
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« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2013, 02:52:48 PM »
« Edited: April 05, 2013, 11:16:49 PM by emcee0 »

Rap, R&B and Hip Hop is likely strong Democrat.
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« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2013, 12:21:31 AM »
« Edited: April 06, 2013, 12:45:35 AM by seven people dead on a South Dakota farm »

Country - strong gop
Pop - depends on sub-genre; Taylor Swift - strong GOP; Katy Perry - leans GOP; Madonna - leans Dem; Lady Gaga - strongly democratic
Post-grunge - lean GOP
Pop Punk - lean GOP
Hardcore Punk - lean GOP
Metalcore - GOP
Christian Hardcore* - strong GOP
Christian Contemporary - ridiculoulsy GOP
Classical - toss-up
Heavy Metal - GOP
Death Metal - scary nihilistic rightwingers
Black Metal - scary nihilistic rightwingers
Post-hardcore - GOP
Grindcore - GOP
Emoviolence - GOP
Christian Emoviolence** - strong GOP
Reggae - strong Dem/green
Indie Rock - lean Dem
Electronic - lean Dem
Classic Rock - GOP
Post-Rock - GOP

*It is worth nothing that there is actually a Christian "sound" in hardcore that is slightly different from non-Christian bands, so there is a musical differentiation, not just lyrical content. It's more moshy and has a far higher percentage of songs consisting of breakdowns.
**This includes about six bands total, none of which are active today.


mostly white people music, no? Given the demographics, I would say most of the above probably lean GOP.

So by this logic, the coffee shop across the street from me which has a well over 90% white clientele has a mostly Republican customer base. And the people at the hundreds of shows I've been to which includes anti-Iraq War activism fundraisers and recently a fundraisers against the Minnesota gay marriage ban and Voter ID amendments are mostly Republicans as well. This is what a gathering of Republicans looks like! Oh and as this photo is almost all white people it's obviously that most people in it are Republicans:


Roll Eyes

Demographic simplification fail.
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« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2013, 11:32:49 AM »

Country - Strong GOP
Pop - Lean Dem (keep in mind a large amount of the genre's fanbse is under 18)
Post-grunge - Tossup (this is the genre that contain Nickelback right?)
Pop Punk - Strong Dem
Hardcore Punk - Strong Dem 
Metalcore - Tossup
Christian Hardcore* - Strong GOP
Christian Contemporary - Strong GOP
Classical - Tossup 
Heavy Metal - Lean Dem
Death Metal - Lean GOP
Black Metal - Lean GOP
Post-hardcore - (I have no idea what this is)
Grindcore - Tossup (Probably most of them are apolitical)
Emoviolence - Very apolitical
Christian Emoviolence** - LOL
Reggae - Strong Libertarian
Indie Rock - Strong Dem
Electronic - Lean Dem
Classic Rock - Strong GOP (One good evidence of this is that syndicated morning radio shows on Classic Rock stations like Walton and Johnson and John Boy and Billy are very right-leaning, and the fact that a lot of the fans are mostly older White males) 
Post-Rock - Lean GOP
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« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2013, 11:06:36 PM »

Grindcore - Tossup (Probably most of them are apolitical)
Emoviolence - Very apolitical

You have obviously never read any grindcore or emoviolence lyrics.


Wha wha what? The only real difference between the fanbase of this and indie rock is that they are more likely to be stoners.
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« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2013, 02:53:05 PM »

Country - strong gop
Pop - depends on sub-genre; Taylor Swift - strong GOP; Katy Perry - leans GOP; Madonna - leans Dem; Lady Gaga - strongly democratic
Post-grunge - lean GOP
Pop Punk - lean GOP
Hardcore Punk - lean GOP
Metalcore - GOP
Christian Hardcore* - strong GOP
Christian Contemporary - ridiculoulsy GOP
Classical - toss-up
Heavy Metal - GOP
Death Metal - scary nihilistic rightwingers
Black Metal - scary nihilistic rightwingers
Post-hardcore - GOP
Grindcore - GOP
Emoviolence - GOP
Christian Emoviolence** - strong GOP
Reggae - strong Dem/green
Indie Rock - lean Dem
Electronic - lean Dem
Classic Rock - GOP
Post-Rock - GOP

*It is worth nothing that there is actually a Christian "sound" in hardcore that is slightly different from non-Christian bands, so there is a musical differentiation, not just lyrical content. It's more moshy and has a far higher percentage of songs consisting of breakdowns.
**This includes about six bands total, none of which are active today.


mostly white people music, no? Given the demographics, I would say most of the above probably lean GOP.

So by this logic, the coffee shop across the street from me which has a well over 90% white clientele has a mostly Republican customer base. And the people at the hundreds of shows I've been to which includes anti-Iraq War activism fundraisers and recently a fundraisers against the Minnesota gay marriage ban and Voter ID amendments are mostly Republicans as well. This is what a gathering of Republicans looks like! Oh and as this photo is almost all white people it's obviously that most people in it are Republicans:


Roll Eyes

Demographic simplification fail.

I think you are the one vastly simplifying things here. You sound like Bandit transposing his own deeply-held views on his immediate environment and concluding that Occupy is a slumbering political force in Kentucky. Just because a couple hundred mostly white students or hipsters show up for a rally like that says little overall about the voting patterns of whites generally, even in MN.

This is a cute thread topic (albeit one whose author was immediate apparent from the title), but don't kid yourself into believing that demographics like race and income aren't a trillion times better an indicator of voting habits than what type of 'core' music someone's into. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2013, 10:02:51 PM »
« Edited: April 20, 2013, 10:06:46 PM by Slowpoke »

Country - strong gop
Pop - depends on sub-genre; Taylor Swift - strong GOP; Katy Perry - leans GOP; Madonna - leans Dem; Lady Gaga - strongly democratic
Post-grunge - lean GOP
Pop Punk - lean GOP
Hardcore Punk - lean GOP
Metalcore - GOP
Christian Hardcore* - strong GOP
Christian Contemporary - ridiculoulsy GOP
Classical - toss-up
Heavy Metal - GOP
Death Metal - scary nihilistic rightwingers
Black Metal - scary nihilistic rightwingers
Post-hardcore - GOP
Grindcore - GOP
Emoviolence - GOP
Christian Emoviolence** - strong GOP
Reggae - strong Dem/green
Indie Rock - lean Dem
Electronic - lean Dem
Classic Rock - GOP
Post-Rock - GOP

*It is worth nothing that there is actually a Christian "sound" in hardcore that is slightly different from non-Christian bands, so there is a musical differentiation, not just lyrical content. It's more moshy and has a far higher percentage of songs consisting of breakdowns.
**This includes about six bands total, none of which are active today.


mostly white people music, no? Given the demographics, I would say most of the above probably lean GOP.

So by this logic, the coffee shop across the street from me which has a well over 90% white clientele has a mostly Republican customer base. And the people at the hundreds of shows I've been to which includes anti-Iraq War activism fundraisers and recently a fundraisers against the Minnesota gay marriage ban and Voter ID amendments are mostly Republicans as well. This is what a gathering of Republicans looks like! Oh and as this photo is almost all white people it's obviously that most people in it are Republicans:


Roll Eyes

Demographic simplification fail.

I think you are the one vastly simplifying things here. You sound like Bandit transposing his own deeply-held views on his immediate environment and concluding that Occupy is a slumbering political force in Kentucky. Just because a couple hundred mostly white students or hipsters show up for a rally like that says little overall about the voting patterns of whites generally, even in MN.

This is a cute thread topic (albeit one whose author was immediate apparent from the title), but don't kid yourself into believing that demographics like race and income aren't a trillion times better an indicator of voting habits than what type of 'core' music someone's into. Roll Eyes

That's not my point at all. I'm not talking about white generally, but whites that listen to these -core genres. Who tend young, in urban areas, and are definitely not high income (note the race and income bit at the end.) and who are WAY disproportionately non-religious. The point was very simplistic and basically assumed all mostly white groupings are Republican, in other words all mostly white counties would be Republican as well, which is obviously not true. Do you think the almost all white people in the coffee shop across the street from me are majority Republican? Or the kids in the video linked above?

My neighborhood is about 70% white in terms of voters (only barely majority white in population, but the non-whites actually have kids, and a lot of them aren't eligible to vote or have a language barrier) and it voted 89% for Obama. So even if every single non-white voter voted for Obama, that's still well over 80% for Obama. Now you'll probably say that whites in a largely hipster neighborhood near Uptown in Minneapolis are not representative of whites overall. Obviously that's true. But they are far more representative of whites that actually do listen to those genres than the country at large is. Remember I once did a thread about how hard it is to identify bands you listen to from counties that voted for McCain or Romney? And that's just COUNTIES, in terms of cities it'd be even harder (example La Dispute from Grand Rapids, Michigan, Romney county but obviously not city.) This whole subculture is not concentrated in parts of the country that vote Republican, or even where the whites vote Republican. Like compare how many shows are in Minneapolis to how many are in Michele Bachmann's district (and then consider the few that do happen there are all in the liberal part of St. Cloud...)

Do you seriously think most people who buy -core records and go to -core shows are Republicans? If so you'd think I'd at least SOMETIMES hear of a show that's a Republican fundraiser or a band that's supportive of conservative causes to counter out all the countless times I've heard the opposite...

Obviously this doesn't mean much for the voting patterns of whites overall, but as stated above, stating any mostly white group is always going to be Republican is no different than saying any mostly white county or area is always going to vote Republican.
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