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« Reply #225 on: February 25, 2013, 01:35:38 PM »

Which regions are left to count in both chambers?

Lombardy still has a lot out. Other than that, I think most of the count left is in the south.
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« Reply #226 on: February 25, 2013, 01:40:27 PM »

VOTE COUNT UPDATE:

Senate (73% in)

32.31% BERSANI
29.94% BERLUSCONI
23.89% GRILLO
  9.18% MONTI

LEAD: B+2.37 (trend: declining)

Chamber (38% in)

31.70% BERSANI
26.94% BERLUSCONI
25.57% GRILLO
10.47% MONTI

LEAD: B+4.76 (trend: declining)
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« Reply #227 on: February 25, 2013, 01:45:37 PM »

Regions with over 3/4 in:

- Piemonte: Right+0.5
- FVG: Left+0.75
- Liguria: Left+9
- ER: Left+20
- Toscana: Left+22
- Umbria: Left+12
- Marche: Left+11
- Molise: Right+0.5
- Basilicata: Left+11

This is getting bad...
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« Reply #228 on: February 25, 2013, 01:49:06 PM »

The problem is not whether Bersani/Monti OR Berlusconi is ahead in Senate. The problem is that Grillo is much too high in Senate, so nobody will get the majority there...
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« Reply #229 on: February 25, 2013, 01:53:25 PM »

Genova
Left 35.2 (-11.5), Troll 30.3, Clown 21.5 (-19.0), Right 9.9

Trieste
Left 31.4 (-7.2), Troll 27.1, Clown 25.9 (-19.6), Right 11.0
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« Reply #230 on: February 25, 2013, 01:56:26 PM »

Genova
Left 35.2 (-11.5), Troll 30.3, Clown 21.5 (-19.0), Right 9.9

Trieste
Left 31.4 (-7.2), Troll 27.1, Clown 25.9 (-19.6), Right 11.0

Left = Bersani
Troll = Grillo
Clown = Berlusconi
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« Reply #231 on: February 25, 2013, 01:58:13 PM »

Piedmont is going to be a real pain. 812 precincts haven't reported yet. 602 are in Turin. Berlusconi currently has a 13,000 vote lead in the region.
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« Reply #232 on: February 25, 2013, 01:58:22 PM »

Doesn't the highest placed Camera coalition automatically get at least half the Camera seats? If this is the case, we'd be looking at about 70% of the electorate getting less than half the seats, and a 29-39% electorate getting half the seats. Very reflective of the electorate.
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« Reply #233 on: February 25, 2013, 01:59:11 PM »

Forces of Darkness now over 30% in the Senate count, left at 32.2
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« Reply #234 on: February 25, 2013, 01:59:12 PM »

Automatically get ~54%, or 340-ish Camera seats.
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« Reply #235 on: February 25, 2013, 02:00:06 PM »

Is this (posted on the Guardian's liveblog) likely to be reasonably accurate?
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« Reply #236 on: February 25, 2013, 02:00:44 PM »

  For the Senate it looks like the city of Turin is almost all in, but not the surronding cities and towns.
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« Reply #237 on: February 25, 2013, 02:01:38 PM »

Lazio is definitely going left
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« Reply #238 on: February 25, 2013, 02:03:30 PM »

M5S people are saying they'll make their own decisions based on web feedback, not what Grillo says. So there has to be a new election regardless of who wins the Chamber, since M5S won't be a coherent bloc voting confidence in either Bersani or PDL.
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« Reply #239 on: February 25, 2013, 02:04:26 PM »

 For the Senate it looks like the city of Turin is almost all in, but not the surronding cities and towns.

You know, I didn't even think of that. The province includes more than just the city. That's huge for Silvio.
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« Reply #240 on: February 25, 2013, 02:06:00 PM »

Is this (posted on the Guardian's liveblog) likely to be reasonably accurate?


Lazio and (for now) Piedmont should be flipped.
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« Reply #241 on: February 25, 2013, 02:06:52 PM »

Piedmont is going to be a real pain. 812 precincts haven't reported yet. 602 are in Turin. Berlusconi currently has a 13,000 vote lead in the region.

I've calculated that if the Left's lead in the Turin province holds steady, they should gain over 20,000 votes. It's hard to see what will happen, though...
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« Reply #242 on: February 25, 2013, 02:08:14 PM »

Is this (posted on the Guardian's liveblog) likely to be reasonably accurate?

Lazio is currently a five point left lead. This will probably get closer, but tipping the right to win it is a daring move. Piemonte, Friuli and Abruzzo are all very much too close to call, though I'm starting to feel cocky about Friuli. I haven't the slightest clue why they're counting the two SVP Alone Senators (as opposed to four Senators elected on joint SVP-PD tickets) for the Monti camp. The rest is evidently correct.
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« Reply #243 on: February 25, 2013, 02:16:20 PM »
« Edited: February 25, 2013, 02:17:53 PM by Esecutore di Mida »

 For the Senate it looks like the city of Turin is almost all in, but not the surronding cities and towns.

You know, I didn't even think of that. The province includes more than just the city. That's huge for Silvio.
Sorry to disappoint you, but Torino's banlieue voted for Veltroni. I'm not going to check everything - huge sh!tload of municipalities in the mountainous part of the province - but Rivoli (37k voters, Veltroni by 8) and Alpignano (13k voters, Veltroni by 5) haven't reported anything at all yet.
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« Reply #244 on: February 25, 2013, 02:18:55 PM »

VOTE COUNT UPDATE:

Senate (73% in)

32.31% BERSANI
29.94% BERLUSCONI
23.89% GRILLO
  9.18% MONTI

LEAD: B+2.37 (trend: declining)

Chamber (38% in)

31.70% BERSANI
26.94% BERLUSCONI
25.57% GRILLO
10.47% MONTI

LEAD: B+4.76 (trend: declining)

Update:

Senate (79% in)

LEAD: B+1.85 (trend: declining)

Chamber (52% in)

LEAD: B+3.52 (trend: declining)
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« Reply #245 on: February 25, 2013, 02:19:48 PM »

 For the Senate it looks like the city of Turin is almost all in, but not the surronding cities and towns.

You know, I didn't even think of that. The province includes more than just the city. That's huge for Silvio.
Sorry to disappoint you, but Torino's banlieue voted for Veltroni. I'm not going to check everything - huge sh!tload of municipalities in the mountainous part of the province - but Rivoli (37k voters, Veltroni by Cool and Alpignano (13k voters, Veltroni by 5) haven't reported anything at all yet.

There are still 100 precincts (58,000 votes) in Cuneo that haven't reported and the center-right is up about 30,000 votes on the center-left (with M5S in second).
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« Reply #246 on: February 25, 2013, 02:22:27 PM »

Regions with over 3/4 in:

- Piemonte: Right+0.5
- FVG: Left+0.75
- Liguria: Left+9
- ER: Left+20
- Toscana: Left+22
- Umbria: Left+12
- Marche: Left+11
- Molise: Right+0.5
- Basilicata: Left+11

This is getting bad...

More have crossed that threshold now.

- TAA: Left wins all seats, AFAIK
- Veneto: Right+8
- Abruzzo: Right+1
- Campania: Right+7
- Puglia: Right+6
- Calabria: Right+2
- Sicilia: Right+5
- Sardegna: Left+6
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« Reply #247 on: February 25, 2013, 02:24:32 PM »

Albert Laniece of Vallée d'Aoste is the first MP elected
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« Reply #248 on: February 25, 2013, 02:25:12 PM »

I'm just now noticing the town breakdown option. I've been missing out.  Sad

M5S just barely beat Bersani in my maternal grandmother's hometown in Sicily with Silvio down at 22%. The center-left won my paternal grandmother's hometown in Campania.  Cry
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« Reply #249 on: February 25, 2013, 02:28:36 PM »

The latest RAI projection:

SENATO DELLA REPUBBLICA

Centrosinistra 31,1 - 105 seats
Centrodestra 30,5 - 113 seats
Movimento 5 Stelle 24,4 - 63 seats
Scelta Civica 9,5 - 20 seats

CAMERA DELLA REPUBBLICA

Centrosinistra 29,2 - 340 seats
Centrodestra 28,7 - 121 seats
Movimento 5 Stelle 26,1 - 111 seats
Scelta Civica 10,8 - 45 seats
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