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« Reply #1400 on: June 26, 2004, 10:30:44 am »
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THIS JUST IN:

Ipsos-Reid Poll

56% of Canadians would support a Liberal minority NDP backed government.

(My math says 38%, but I keep hearing something like 40%+) Would support a Conservative minority backed by the NDP

6% would support a Conservative minority backed by the Bloc

Interesting...

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« Reply #1401 on: June 26, 2004, 10:31:25 am »
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SES Research has released its final tracking poll: 34% Liberal, 30% Conservative, 20% NDP, 12% Bloc, 3% Green
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« Reply #1402 on: June 26, 2004, 10:32:25 am »
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SES Research has released its final tracking poll: 34% Liberal, 30% Conservative, 20% NDP, 12% Bloc, 3% Green

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Smiling all the way to the ballot box

Info on Nader and recent NDP developments:

http://www.cfrb.com/content/cp_article.asp?id=/global_feeds/canadianpress/nationalnews/n062515A.htm
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« Reply #1403 on: June 26, 2004, 10:36:46 am »
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THIS JUST IN:

Ipsos-Reid Poll

56% of Canadians would support a Liberal minority NDP backed government.

(My math says 38%, but I keep hearing something like 40%+) Would support a Conservative minority backed by the NDP

6% would support a Conservative minority backed by the Bloc

Interesting...

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A lot of people Out West like both the Dippers and the Tories but hate the Grits.
CPC voters in Interior BC are swing voters in the next BC provincial election (weird or what?)
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« Reply #1404 on: June 26, 2004, 05:08:51 pm »
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Latest Election Prediction Project numbers:

LPC 97
CPC 86
NDP 25
BQ   51
TC    48
Ind    1
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« Reply #1405 on: June 27, 2004, 03:32:25 am »
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Latest Election Prediction Project numbers:

LPC 107
CPC  97
NDP 25
BQ   52
TC    24
Ind    1

All Western Provinces completed. Only 18 Ontario seats uncompleted.
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« Reply #1406 on: June 27, 2004, 09:19:48 am »
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Hey Al, you going to be in here on Election night?

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« Reply #1407 on: June 27, 2004, 10:14:35 am »
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What time do the polls close?....it terms of Eastern Time, the non-offset time used on this forum.  

Do returns roll in from East to West like they do in the US?
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« Reply #1408 on: June 27, 2004, 12:05:33 pm »
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Hey Al, you going to be in here on Election night?

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Dunno yet
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« Reply #1409 on: June 27, 2004, 03:42:07 pm »
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More polls...

Ipsos-Reid: LPC 32, CPC 31, NDP 17, BQ 12, GPC 12
Ekos: LPC 32.6, CPC 31.8, NDP 19, BQ 11.2
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« Reply #1410 on: June 28, 2004, 04:39:21 am »
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Election Prediction Project's final numbers:

LPC 121
CPC 105
NDP   29
BQ     52
Ind      1
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« Reply #1411 on: June 28, 2004, 06:15:43 am »
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can you link me to taht site?

i remember seeing it for the QC elections a year or so ago; it's very interesting.

Also, why AFIP? As I said there, I like you but it's not your type of politics, I thought :confused:
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« Reply #1412 on: June 28, 2004, 06:31:14 am »
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can you link me to taht site?

i remember seeing it for the QC elections a year or so ago; it's very interesting.

Also, why AFIP? As I said there, I like you but it's not your type of politics, I thought :confused:

www.electionprediction.com

They printed my near-libel-writ-inducing rant about a local poll Smiley

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Re the fantasy politics thing, I set up my own party (the ILP) and am going to affiliate it to the AFIP.
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« Reply #1413 on: June 28, 2004, 08:22:05 am »
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Ya Nick East-West. Time zone. Polls open at 9:30am. and close at 9:30pm. The first polls have opened up in the East. In 10 min. polls open here, and in 3 hours and 10 min. polls the last polls will open. The first returns will come in at 8pm EST.

Good poll numbers Al.

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« Reply #1414 on: June 28, 2004, 11:46:17 am »
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I checked Cspan.org and it said that CSPAN will air CBC's coverage of the election starting at 9:30 PM.

Go LPC!
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« Reply #1415 on: June 28, 2004, 11:55:38 am »
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I'm not sure whether to stay up for the Atlantic or wake up for BC...
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« Reply #1416 on: June 28, 2004, 01:32:30 pm »
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What do you guys say it will be?  A Liberal Minority?
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« Reply #1417 on: June 28, 2004, 01:35:27 pm »
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This is exciting.  A switch from liberal to conservatives could occur today.  I dont know much about Canada but go CPC, even if it is a minority government.
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« Reply #1418 on: June 28, 2004, 01:39:43 pm »
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Remember, there will likely be many recounts and it may be as late as Thursday before all is set. What ever party gets the minority will only win be less than 20 seats.

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« Reply #1419 on: June 28, 2004, 03:14:56 pm »
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I'm hoping for a Conservative majority, but in reality it will be a conservative minority.
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« Reply #1420 on: June 28, 2004, 03:38:21 pm »
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I'm hoping for a Conservative majority, but in reality it will be a conservative minority.

I hope Stephen Harper takes a long walk on a short wharf, if you catch my drift.

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« Reply #1421 on: June 28, 2004, 03:46:30 pm »
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lol, in AUS we say 'a long walk off a short pier'

Laguage differences are funny Smiley

My wishlist: The Liberals orm a minority goverment, the NDP gets heaps of seats, the BQ get at least under 60 seats. Likelyhood of all three? marginla, but maybe one or two will happen.
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« Reply #1422 on: June 28, 2004, 03:50:11 pm »
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Interesting.

http://www.ipsos-na.com/news/pressrelease.cfm?id=2296

Toronto, ON – According to a new Ipsos-Reid/CTV/Globe and Mail poll released this morning, if faced with a minority government, Canadians would be more accepting of some party combinations than others:

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Over half (56%) feel a “Liberal-led minority government supported by the NDP” would be acceptable to them; while ·
52% feel a “Liberal-led minority government supported by the Conservatives” would be acceptable to them; ·
48% feel a “Conservative-led minority government supported by the Liberals” would be acceptable to them; ·
47% feel a “Conservative-led minority government supported by the NDP” would be acceptable to them; ·
31% feel a “Liberal-led minority government supported by the Bloc Quebecois” would be acceptable to them; and ·
28% feel a “Conservative-led minority government supported by the Bloc Quebecois” would be acceptable to them.
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« Reply #1423 on: June 28, 2004, 04:21:01 pm »
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Interesting.

http://www.ipsos-na.com/news/pressrelease.cfm?id=2296

Toronto, ON – According to a new Ipsos-Reid/CTV/Globe and Mail poll released this morning, if faced with a minority government, Canadians would be more accepting of some party combinations than others:

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Over half (56%) feel a “Liberal-led minority government supported by the NDP” would be acceptable to them; while ·
52% feel a “Liberal-led minority government supported by the Conservatives” would be acceptable to them; ·
48% feel a “Conservative-led minority government supported by the Liberals” would be acceptable to them; ·
47% feel a “Conservative-led minority government supported by the NDP” would be acceptable to them; ·
31% feel a “Liberal-led minority government supported by the Bloc Quebecois” would be acceptable to them; and ·
28% feel a “Conservative-led minority government supported by the Bloc Quebecois” would be acceptable to them.

Interpretation: Canadians don't know what they want. Wink Those numbers don't add up... so confused...

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« Reply #1424 on: June 28, 2004, 04:31:14 pm »
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I don't believe they're supposed to add up.

I think they ask the sample each question, and ask them to treat it independently of the other question.
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