SENATE BILL: Productive Committees Resolution (Passed)
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« on: February 28, 2013, 06:15:49 AM »
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SECTION 3. AMENDMENT TO THE GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT AND REFORM COMMITTEE RESOLUTION.

1. The Government Oversight and Reform Committee Resolution shall be amended as follows:

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SECTION 4. AMENDMENT TO THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY CREATION RESOLUTION.

1. The Senate Committee on National Security Creation Resolution shall be amended as follows:

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SECTION 5. AMENDMENT TO THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON INTERNAL AFFAIRS CREATION RESOLUTION.

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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2013, 06:19:47 AM »

Senator you have 24 hours to begin advocating for this.

If both Seantors are willing, I would like to see the the other resolution by Senator Napoleon merged with this one if possible via amendment. I will also be offering the text below, with some minor revisions, once that process has been completed.


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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2013, 12:35:55 PM »

I'm open to whatever. The driving force behind me wanting to pass a resolution like this one was the fact that it's incredibly hard to run a committee that only has two active members. Voting to endorse the passage of a bill is almost pointless, and an absence of any length can inhibit committees much more than it would inhibit the senate as a whole. I think it makes sense to give the senate the power to kick people out of committees.
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2013, 08:22:36 AM »

Absent committee members haven't been an issue on the GOR Committee, but if this has been a problem for other committee chairs I'm willing to support this.

Absent members, hell absent chairs for heaven's sake. Haven't you followed the IA Committee at all? Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2013, 08:24:31 AM »

I realize that it isn't expelling them from the Senate and thus doesn't fall into the 2/3rds Constitutional requrement, but wouldn't 2/3rds be better for matters of consistency? As long as it is tied to a day inacitvity requirement I don't think we have much to worry about anyway.
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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2013, 11:43:08 PM »

I realize that it isn't expelling them from the Senate and thus doesn't fall into the 2/3rds Constitutional requrement, but wouldn't 2/3rds be better for matters of consistency? As long as it is tied to a day inacitvity requirement I don't think we have much to worry about anyway.

I don't mind changing it to 2/3rds.
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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2013, 02:10:55 PM »

We ought to consider clarifying other portions of the committee resolutions while we're at it.
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2013, 03:26:42 PM »

Friendly. To both. Wink

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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2013, 03:38:21 PM »

We ought to consider clarifying other portions of the committee resolutions while we're at it.

Most definately.


Also, I was holding mine back because I expected you were going to offer your seperate bill as an amendment to this one, and I thought it should go first. Is that still on?
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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2013, 03:47:46 PM »

Go ahead with yours. I'm going to review everything and see what I think we could do to work out any kinks.
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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2013, 04:13:18 PM »

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SECTION 3. AMENDMENT TO THE GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT AND REFORM COMMITTEE RESOLUTION.

1. The Government Oversight and Reform Committee Resolution shall be amended as follows:

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SECTION 4. AMENDMENT TO THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY CREATION RESOLUTION.

1. The Senate Committee on National Security Creation Resolution shall be amended as follows:

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SECTION 5. AMENDMENT TO THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON INTERNAL AFFAIRS CREATION RESOLUTION.

1. Section (3) Subsection (4) of the Senate Committee on Internal Affairs Creation Resolution shall be amended as follows:

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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2013, 01:10:34 AM »


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SECTION 3. AMENDMENT TO THE GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT AND REFORM COMMITTEE RESOLUTION.

1. The Government Oversight and Reform Committee Resolution shall be amended as follows:

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SECTION 4. AMENDMENT TO THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY CREATION RESOLUTION.

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SECTION 5. AMENDMENT TO THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON INTERNAL AFFAIRS CREATION RESOLUTION.

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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2013, 04:16:10 PM »

That can be declared as having been adopted, obviously.
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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2013, 10:41:50 AM »

The amendment has been adopted.

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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2013, 10:46:24 AM »

Final vote?
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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2013, 10:46:28 AM »

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SECTION 4. GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT AND REFORM COMMITTEE RESOLUTION REVISION

Paragraph 2 of The Government Oversight and Reform Committee Resolution is hereby amended:

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SECTION 5. JUDICIARY COMMITTEE RESOLUTION REVISION

Section 3, subsection 1 of the Senate Committee on the Judiciary Creation Resolution is hereby amended:

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SECTION 6. INTERNAL AFFAIRS COMMITTEE RESOLUTION REVISION

Section 3, subsection 1 of the Senate Committee on Internal Affairs Creation Resolution is hereby amended:

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SECTION 7. EFFECTIVENESS

The above parts of the legislation shall go into effect at the start of the next lame duck session.

SECTION 8. OSPR Committee Section Amendment

Article 7, Section 3, Clause 3 of the OSPR is amended as follow:

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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2013, 10:53:16 AM »


I ain't done yet. Tongue


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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2013, 04:05:25 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2013, 10:23:54 AM »

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« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2013, 11:27:44 AM »

The amendment has been adopted.
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« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2013, 07:38:57 PM »

I know people talked about making this more comprehensive... is there anything else folks want to add?

I'm also good with getting this through now so we have room to discuss other business. What's the verdict?
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« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2013, 08:14:30 PM »

Has anyone noticed that since passing the "Get It Over Act", we have still not managed to get the Committees going before two weeks after the start of the New Senate, give or take a few days? For some reason I expected it to have a greater impact, at least that was the intent behind it if memory serves me.
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« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2013, 11:21:37 PM »

If Chairmanship votes are uncontested, they should have the voting requirement waived. Thoughts?
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« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2013, 11:25:36 PM »

I disagree. The choice to abstain or not vote can sometimes be telling. I'd rather keep the democratic element.
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« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2013, 08:48:19 AM »

I would be fine with disposing with the voting period for uncontested chairmanships. If someone objects to another committee member serving as chair, they ought to run against that person or just say so. Giving them the chance to register their disapproval in a vote isn't worth delaying committee activity for several days.

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