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JohnFKennedy
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Senatorial Candidates
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April 02, 2004, 11:55:16 am »
I have assumed which seat a few of you are running for, but each person has been put in the region or district respective to their region or district in the map which is on DemRepDan's constitution.
No JCP candidates have been included, for one none of them can legally run as far as I know and we aren't letting them I think.
If you have any disagreements with this please respond and I will change it to fit, bear in mind, I have listed those who have declared candidacies and if because if this apparent "deal" between the Democrats and Progressives some of you aren't running, let the forum know and I will remove you from the lists.
WildCard hasn't been included as I saw he had withdrawn from the race, if those of you who already hold positions are going to run, you are going to need to resign from your current positions.
North-East Region:
Migrendel (D-MA)
Justin (R-NH)
Shapeshifter?
? (P-NY)
South-East Region:
StatesRights (R-FL)
Beet (D-MD)
Mid-West Region:
Reaganfan (R-OH)
Hughento (D-IA)
South-West Region:
Harry (D-MS)
West Region:
JohnFKennedy (D-CA)
Apostle??? (JCP-WA)
District 1:
MAS117 (D-NJ) (possibly)
District 2:
Emsworth (P-MA)
YoungRepub (R-NY)
District 3:
DemrepDan (D-IL)
Beef (I-WI)
District 4:
Lewis Trondheim (P-OR)
District 5:
DukeFan (R-VA)
*EDIT*
REGIONS AND DISTRICTS USED HERE WILL NOT BE THE ONES USED LATER ON AS THEY WERE REJECTED.
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MAS117
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Re:Senatorial Candidates
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April 02, 2004, 12:38:18 pm »
first of all i not not a candidate for the senate yet, i have not announceed my intentions.. and arent i in district 2
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JLD
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Re:Senatorial Candidates
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April 02, 2004, 12:45:03 pm »
Quote from: Atty. Gen. MAS117 on April 02, 2004, 12:38:18 pm
first of all i not not a candidate for the senate yet, i have not announceed my intentions.. and arent i in district 2
According to the Constitution- I assume that is what we are going by- New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Ohio are District 1.
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JohnFKennedy
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Re:Senatorial Candidates
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April 02, 2004, 12:46:59 pm »
Quote from: Atty. Gen. MAS117 on April 02, 2004, 12:38:18 pm
first of all i not not a candidate for the senate yet, i have not announceed my intentions.. and arent i in district 2
Sorry, you only said you were considering running.
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JohnFKennedy
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Re:Senatorial Candidates
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April 02, 2004, 12:47:51 pm »
Quote from: JLD on April 02, 2004, 12:45:03 pm
Quote from: Atty. Gen. MAS117 on April 02, 2004, 12:38:18 pm
first of all i not not a candidate for the senate yet, i have not announceed my intentions.. and arent i in district 2
According to the Constitution- I assume that is what we are going by- New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Ohio are District 1.
JLD is right, on the map in the constitution New Jersey is District 1.
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MAS117
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Re:Senatorial Candidates
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April 02, 2004, 12:47:59 pm »
Quote from: JLD on April 02, 2004, 12:45:03 pm
Quote from: Atty. Gen. MAS117 on April 02, 2004, 12:38:18 pm
first of all i not not a candidate for the senate yet, i have not announceed my intentions.. and arent i in district 2
According to the Constitution- I assume that is what we are going by- New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Ohio are District 1.
i didnt know that my bad
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Fmr. Gov. NickG
NickG
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Re:Senatorial Candidates
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April 02, 2004, 02:15:51 pm »
I though we weren't using the map in the Constitution, but rather the map we voted for in the Amendments thread. Under this map, NJ and VA are in the same District.
Also, the populations of the maps have not been evened out according to the latest census.
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JohnFKennedy
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Re:Senatorial Candidates
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Reply #7 on:
April 02, 2004, 02:34:06 pm »
Quote from: NickG on April 02, 2004, 02:15:51 pm
I though we weren't using the map in the Constitution, but rather the map we voted for in the Amendments thread. Under this map, NJ and VA are in the same District.
Also, the populations of the maps have not been evened out according to the latest census.
There are about 10 different maps in that thread, I have no clue which is the actual right one lol.
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Fmr. Gov. NickG
NickG
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Re:Senatorial Candidates
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April 02, 2004, 03:45:17 pm »
Quote from: JohnFKennedy on April 02, 2004, 02:34:06 pm
Quote from: NickG on April 02, 2004, 02:15:51 pm
I though we weren't using the map in the Constitution, but rather the map we voted for in the Amendments thread. Under this map, NJ and VA are in the same District.
Also, the populations of the maps have not been evened out according to the latest census.
There are about 10 different maps in that thread, I have no clue which is the actual right one lol.
Look at the FINAL DISTRICTS AND REGIONS thread. I think it only has one maps for the regions, and one for the districts.
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JohnFKennedy
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Re:Senatorial Candidates
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April 02, 2004, 03:46:23 pm »
Quote from: NickG on April 02, 2004, 03:45:17 pm
Quote from: JohnFKennedy on April 02, 2004, 02:34:06 pm
Quote from: NickG on April 02, 2004, 02:15:51 pm
I though we weren't using the map in the Constitution, but rather the map we voted for in the Amendments thread. Under this map, NJ and VA are in the same District.
Also, the populations of the maps have not been evened out according to the latest census.
There are about 10 different maps in that thread, I have no clue which is the actual right one lol.
Look at the FINAL DISTRICTS AND REGIONS thread. I think it only has one maps for the regions, and one for the districts.
I did look at it, there are tons of them there.
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Fmr. Gov. NickG
NickG
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Re:Senatorial Candidates
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April 02, 2004, 03:51:36 pm »
Quote from: JohnFKennedy on April 02, 2004, 03:46:23 pm
Quote from: NickG on April 02, 2004, 03:45:17 pm
Quote from: JohnFKennedy on April 02, 2004, 02:34:06 pm
Quote from: NickG on April 02, 2004, 02:15:51 pm
I though we weren't using the map in the Constitution, but rather the map we voted for in the Amendments thread. Under this map, NJ and VA are in the same District.
Also, the populations of the maps have not been evened out according to the latest census.
There are about 10 different maps in that thread, I have no clue which is the actual right one lol.
Look at the FINAL DISTRICTS AND REGIONS thread. I think it only has one maps for the regions, and one for the districts.
I did look at it, there are tons of them there.
You're right!..I forgot.
The maps posted by Dunn and Lewis are identical. Those are the ones that passed in the Amendments thread.
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dunn
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Re:Senatorial Candidates
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April 02, 2004, 03:53:10 pm »
Quote from: JohnFKennedy on April 02, 2004, 03:46:23 pm
Quote from: NickG on April 02, 2004, 03:45:17 pm
Quote from: JohnFKennedy on April 02, 2004, 02:34:06 pm
Quote from: NickG on April 02, 2004, 02:15:51 pm
I though we weren't using the map in the Constitution, but rather the map we voted for in the Amendments thread. Under this map, NJ and VA are in the same District.
Also, the populations of the maps have not been evened out according to the latest census.
There are about 10 different maps in that thread, I have no clue which is the actual right one lol.
Look at the FINAL DISTRICTS AND REGIONS thread. I think it only has one maps for the regions, and one for the districts.
I did look at it, there are tons of them there.
true
there was some color problem/ It's two maps, districts and regions
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JohnFKennedy
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Re:Senatorial Candidates
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Reply #12 on:
April 02, 2004, 03:54:15 pm »
Quote from: dunn on April 02, 2004, 03:53:10 pm
Quote from: JohnFKennedy on April 02, 2004, 03:46:23 pm
Quote from: NickG on April 02, 2004, 03:45:17 pm
Quote from: JohnFKennedy on April 02, 2004, 02:34:06 pm
Quote from: NickG on April 02, 2004, 02:15:51 pm
I though we weren't using the map in the Constitution, but rather the map we voted for in the Amendments thread. Under this map, NJ and VA are in the same District.
Also, the populations of the maps have not been evened out according to the latest census.
There are about 10 different maps in that thread, I have no clue which is the actual right one lol.
Look at the FINAL DISTRICTS AND REGIONS thread. I think it only has one maps for the regions, and one for the districts.
I did look at it, there are tons of them there.
true
there was some color problem/ It's two maps, districts and regions
could you stick the actual ones up in here and I will modify it.
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Reaganfan
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Re:Senatorial Candidates
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Reply #13 on:
April 02, 2004, 05:06:49 pm »
Redo the list with the right districts.
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JohnFKennedy
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Re:Senatorial Candidates
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Reply #14 on:
April 02, 2004, 05:08:04 pm »
That district in dunn's post can't be right, it is supposed to be balanced, there are 20 frickin people in one of the districts and 8 in another.
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hughento
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Re:Senatorial Candidates
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Reply #15 on:
April 02, 2004, 06:19:26 pm »
The maps were voted on when the membership situation was very different...
We are meant to have 1--state regions and equakl-member districts, whatever the maps.
I think we need to get this resolved-now.
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dunn
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Re:Senatorial Candidates
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April 02, 2004, 06:41:36 pm »
Quote from: hughento on April 02, 2004, 06:19:26 pm
The maps were voted on when the membership situation was very different...
We are meant to have 1--state regions and equakl-member districts, whatever the maps.
I think we need to get this resolved-now.
the maps were voted on few days ago with ONE new registered voter since. I sat it again I personally don't like the regions/districts but that was the call a couple of days ago. We can go on like that forever
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hughento
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Re:Senatorial Candidates
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April 02, 2004, 06:42:31 pm »
when people voted at the ratification, they didnt actually know what they were voting for-the maps weren't there!
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dunn
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April 02, 2004, 06:46:31 pm »
Quote from: hughento on April 02, 2004, 06:42:31 pm
when people voted at the ratification, they didnt actually know what they were voting for-the maps weren't there!
It like saying they didn't know ehat is PV. and the explanation was there.
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Emsworth
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Re:Senatorial Candidates
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April 02, 2004, 06:53:44 pm »
The choice in question was (emphasis added):
c) Regions plan E and Districts plan D
from the Regions Vote thread
If the voter did not care to check the regions vote thread, then its not the fault of the individual setting up the vote.
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ShapeShifter
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Re:Senatorial Candidates
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April 02, 2004, 06:58:53 pm »
Quote from: Emsworth on April 02, 2004, 06:53:44 pm
The choice in question was (emphasis added):
c) Regions plan E and Districts plan D
from the Regions Vote thread
If the voter did not care to check the regions vote thread, then its not the fault of the individual setting up the vote.
What exactly is Regions plan E and District plan D???
Is that the same from the website of the constituion?
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Emsworth
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Re:Senatorial Candidates
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April 02, 2004, 07:52:11 pm »
Check
Topic: REGIONS VOTE
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JohnFKennedy
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April 03, 2004, 09:23:38 am »
Quote from: Emsworth on April 02, 2004, 06:53:44 pm
The choice in question was (emphasis added):
c) Regions plan E and Districts plan D
from the Regions Vote thread
If the voter did not care to check the regions vote thread, then its not the fault of the individual setting up the vote.
that is regions, we never voted on the districts and that is what is seriously wrong.
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Emsworth
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Re:Senatorial Candidates
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April 03, 2004, 09:57:15 am »
Quote from: JohnFKennedy on April 03, 2004, 09:23:38 am
Quote from: Emsworth on April 02, 2004, 06:53:44 pm
The choice in question was (emphasis added):
c) Regions plan E and Districts plan D
from the Regions Vote thread
If the voter did not care to check the regions vote thread, then its not the fault of the individual setting up the vote.
that is regions, we never voted on the districts and that is what is seriously wrong.
Not true. The distinction between the two came just as the vote was being established. Plan D, which won, was
perfectly balanced
at the time of the election (nineteen to twenty-one residents in each). We cannot now change it on the basis of a population change. If so, then every time a new voter registers, a change would be necessitated. Plan D, I think, must be used for the midterm elections, since it was valid at the time of creation. The new Senate can then appropriately redraw the boundaries. The map has no basis whatsoever - 10 states per region or anything else - in terms of being a regional map.
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JohnFKennedy
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Re:Senatorial Candidates
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Quote from: Emsworth on April 03, 2004, 09:57:15 am
Quote from: JohnFKennedy on April 03, 2004, 09:23:38 am
Quote from: Emsworth on April 02, 2004, 06:53:44 pm
The choice in question was (emphasis added):
c) Regions plan E and Districts plan D
from the Regions Vote thread
If the voter did not care to check the regions vote thread, then its not the fault of the individual setting up the vote.
that is regions, we never voted on the districts and that is what is seriously wrong.
Not true. The distinction between the two came just as the vote was being established. Plan D, which won, was
perfectly balanced
at the time of the election (nineteen to twenty-one residents in each). We cannot now change it on the basis of a population change. If so, then every time a new voter registers, a change would be necessitated. Plan D, I think, must be used for the midterm elections, since it was valid at the time of creation. The new Senate can then appropriately redraw the boundaries. The map has no basis whatsoever - 10 states per region or anything else - in terms of being a regional map.
Ok, I concede I was wrong there, but the districts are seriously unbalanced, I don't think we should have voted on districts because it should be balanced.
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