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Question: Would you support the mid-decade gerrymandering of California, New York, and Illinois by Democrats?
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yes, payback's a bitch
 
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« on: February 16, 2005, 09:50:12 PM »
« edited: February 16, 2005, 09:53:50 PM by Proud Liberal »

would you support the Democratic gerrymandering of California and Illinois in retaliation for the Republican gerrymandering of Texas (and apparently Georgia)?

-and i am referring to mid-decade redistricting which Republicans have made precedent, as we all know.   
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2005, 09:51:30 PM »

In NY and California it wouldn't really work that well since our strength is concentrated near the coasts, whereas Texas is more easily gerrymandered.  Unless we combined portions of NYC with bits of upstate, it wouldn't work.
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2005, 09:51:46 PM »

California was already gerrymandered.

New York is not controlled by the Democrats, and it's almost impossible to gerrymander Illinois because all the Democrats are packed in Chicago.
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2005, 09:55:18 PM »

In NY and California it wouldn't really work that well since our strength is concentrated near the coasts, whereas Texas is more easily gerrymandered.  Unless we combined portions of NYC with bits of upstate, it wouldn't work.

i know, but let's suppose for argument's sake that we did have complete control of those two states (they are, after all, strongly Democratic) -would you support it then?
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2005, 09:57:54 PM »

Illinois and New Jersey are the only Democratic-controlled states where we could conceivably gain any seats.
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2005, 11:35:42 PM »

In NY and California it wouldn't really work that well since our strength is concentrated near the coasts, whereas Texas is more easily gerrymandered.  Unless we combined portions of NYC with bits of upstate, it wouldn't work.

You mean something like this?

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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2005, 11:39:37 PM »

it's almost impossible to gerrymander Illinois because all the Democrats are packed in Chicago.

Actually, you could create long strips of CDs like NC-12 from Cook County down IL into Republican areas:

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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2005, 11:42:01 PM »


The Republican "gerrymander" in Georgia was created by stupid Georgian Democrats who had no idea what they were doing in creating the districts...
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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2005, 04:32:22 AM »

Yes, payback's a bitch!
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« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2005, 06:29:58 AM »

So physical contiguity is a requirement for CDs?
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« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2005, 06:30:51 AM »
« Edited: February 17, 2005, 06:33:35 AM by jfern »

So physical contiguity is a requirement for CDs?

In most (maybe all) states.
This is still allowed though.
Don't ask me why it looks so funny. I mean no matter how you draw Manhattan and Brooklyn your district is going to be Democratic.


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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2005, 06:35:10 AM »

Just let a computer draw districts.
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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2005, 06:36:11 AM »

Racial gerrymandering. That's a district supposed to a) elect an extra Hispanic b) have sufficient Chinese voting power to prevent anybody blatantly disliked in the Chinese community from winning.
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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2005, 06:47:15 AM »

Here's a really crazy one.

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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2005, 07:15:55 AM »

In Florida, of course, racial and political gerrymandering are one.
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« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2005, 08:00:09 AM »

No, there should be no gerrymandering. Congressional districts should be distinct geographical entities within around 15,000 electors of each other

At present, to my knowledge, there are only about 25-30 (if that) competitive districts out of 435, which seems to imply that districting, and re-districting, is about little more than protecting vested interests (both Democratic and Republican)

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