Will Ben Carson be the 2016 Herman Cain?
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« on: March 16, 2013, 04:53:45 PM »

I don't get the attraction of either one. Is it because both are black? Or is it because they are not elected officials?
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2013, 04:58:30 PM »

I don't think so. Ben Carson is obviously not an intellectual lightweight, something that Herman Cain was on a number of issues, but might end up in the same category of candidate.
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2013, 05:23:55 PM »

His comments on evolution confuse the heck out of me.
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2013, 06:55:45 PM »

No.  America will not get its first Adventist president Wink out of him, because he won't even run.  Nor will it get that from me, since I never want to run for elected office (except maybe a precinct delegate.)
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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2013, 07:25:02 PM »

He will run and become very popular as a common man and Washington outsider and will rise in the polls and then he'll actually be confronted on an issue and get slaughtered, probably in a primary debate.
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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2013, 07:52:32 PM »

people will forget about him by then.. so no.. he might run for a congressional seat or something.

Carson is more like Joe the Plumber than he is Herman Cain
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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2013, 08:29:35 PM »

He will run and become very popular as a common man and Washington outsider and will rise in the polls and then he'll actually be confronted on an issue and get slaughtered, probably in a primary debate.

Pretty much.  Carson has yet to be interviewed or debate someone with an opposing view.  He's a lot smarter than Cain, but he'll come across as a buffoon the second the mainstream media and Democratic scrutiny opens up on him.  He doesn't know enough about politics to win those confrontations. 
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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2013, 08:33:34 PM »

He won't even run.
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2013, 12:58:03 AM »

He couldn't shine Dr. Cain's shoes.
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2013, 07:12:15 AM »

Carson says he opposed going to war against both Afghanistan and Iraq:

http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/19/ben-carsons-most-surprising-policy-positions/

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OK, perhaps not quite as incoherent as this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAGGpK7bSWc

In the same interview, Carson says that he backs immigration reform with a path to citizenship.....just like all the other 2016 candidates.
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2013, 09:44:03 AM »

No, for a few reasons;

1) Ben Carson is smarter than Herman Cain
2) Ben Carson is more serious than Herman Cain
3) Ben Carson does not have the same experience in business as Cain
4) Ben Carson won't be running for President in 2016, he needs some political experience before going from running a hospital to running the country. Perhaps he should run for Congress, become House Speaker, and then run for President
5) If I am wrong, and Ben Carson does run, he will have more ideas than "999".
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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2013, 02:42:11 PM »

I don't think Carson is smarter than Cain.  He just has academic credentials and experience in healthcare.  He'd get blown up and look stupid just like Cain was when asked about foreign policy, law, and anything that wasn't in his field of knowledge.

Running for President is not about being the smartest.  It's about absorbing information and communicating a message from it quickly.  That's why lawyers are mostly the ones who go far in politics from Obama to Bachmann.  They know how to sound like experts on things they just learned about the night before.
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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2013, 03:29:13 PM »

Carson isn't even a Republican.

Lol.  Of course as I type this, Carson's being interviewed on CNN.
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2013, 03:39:48 PM »


Neither is Sean Hannity. The guy's anti-evolution; he's not a part of any kind of 'Logic Party'.
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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2013, 03:43:23 PM »


Neither is Sean Hannity. The guy's anti-evolution; he's not a part of any kind of 'Logic Party'.

How the hell did this guy get in medicine?
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« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2013, 04:09:42 PM »


Neither is Sean Hannity. The guy's anti-evolution; he's not a part of any kind of 'Logic Party'.

How the hell did this guy get in medicine?

By studying real hard, of course.
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« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2013, 04:22:54 PM »

He will run and become very popular as a common man and Washington outsider and will rise in the polls and then he'll actually be confronted on an issue and get slaughtered, probably in a primary debate.

Pretty much.  Carson has yet to be interviewed or debate someone with an opposing view.  He's a lot smarter than Cain, but he'll come across as a buffoon the second the mainstream media and Democratic scrutiny opens up on him.  He doesn't know enough about politics to win those confrontations. 

The guy is a neurosurgeon.  That's a fairly narrow skill set... even amongst doctors.  Very deep... but narrow.  A run of the mill internal medicine doctor would have a more bird's eye view of the healthcare system.

Did anyone see the part where he supported a flat tax because it is more like the tithe system in the Bible?  Show of hands.  Who really thinks this guy is ready for prime time?

The health savings account thing is a joke.  I mean I think we should have them but most people don't max out their IRA for retirement.  Only a neurosurgeon making seven figures would think people have enough spare change lying around to fund a HSA in any kind of meaningful way.

He will run and become very popular as a common man...

Let me guess.  You voted for Romney.  Am I right?  Since when is a millionaire neurosurgeon from Hopkins a "common man"?  Let me guess.  He's "middle class" as well.  Right?

King is right.  He seems like a nice guy with some common sense ideas, but at the rate he's going he will be Herman Cain part II hopefully without the "blame yourself" and sexual harassment.
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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2013, 07:06:16 PM »

He will run and become very popular as a common man...

Let me guess.  You voted for Romney.  Am I right?  Since when is a millionaire neurosurgeon from Hopkins a "common man"?  Let me guess.  He's "middle class" as well.  Right?

I didn't (Johnson), but by common man I mean that he's not a part of the 'Washington establishment' and he's never been involved in politics, he joined the race not out of a political purpose but to save his country (from the liberals), Washington outsider, etc, etc, etc.

Also, he grew up in inner-city Detroit to a single mother with a third grade education who worked 2-3 jobs, so he has more of the self-made-man angle, compared to the inherited wealth Romney-type guy.
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