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Jake
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« on: February 17, 2005, 03:46:32 PM »

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Jake
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2005, 01:33:07 PM »

Next question is could a particular county in a state overturn it's restrictive laws.  Off the bat in PA I know Montgomery, Bucks, Chester, Delaware, and Philadelphia would do it in a heartbeat. 

There isn't such thing as county rights Tongue
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2005, 04:38:28 PM »

Few states would ban it entirely.  Some southern states and Utah would restrict it to rape/incest, others like NM and PA it would only be first trimester.  The bulk of states would have it legal but restricted, with only a few liberal havens offering it on demand.

That's probably right for PA.  Thing is SE Penn Democrats and Republicans (minus the NE Philly delegation) would unite in Harrisburg and fight quite hard to keep it. 

Doesn't mean they would win. PA is a Pro Life state. Now sit back, take a deep breath and accept that.

I don't think some legislators want to alienate people within their own party.  There are a lot of pro-choice Republicans in SE Penn.  Likewise there are pro-life Democrats out west.  There would likely be a bi-partisan compromise.

Probably. Those who are saying abortion would be outright illegal in Pennsylvania clearly aren't taking a look at the big picture. We have a pro-choice governor, the state voted for the last four Democratic candidates who were openly pro-choice, and we have one pro-choice senator who is a Republican. Sure, there are a lot of Democrats in the southwest who are pro-life. But more importantly are the Philadelphia suburbs where theres a lot of Republicans who are pro-choice. The Southwest is becoming less and less important in state politics. Rendell beat Casey, Kerry beat Bush (Southwest PA trended huge towards Bush, but the Southeast still gave the state to Kerry).

Prominent Pro Lifers include: Bob Casey, Jr. (D - State Treasurer), Jack Wagner (D - State Auditor), Catherine Baker Knoll (D - Lt. Governor), Rick Santorum (R - U.S. Senator), Tom Corbett (R - State Attorney Gen.) a clear majority of our Congressional delegation...  Do I need to continue?

Sure do. I bet if a poll came out, it would be close, but a majority of Pennsylvania would be pro-choice. I think it would be legal, but with a lot of restrictions.

Polls don't matter, legislators do.  Most Republicans would support a ban and I know of at least two democrats in my area who (Staback and Wansacz) would support at least a 2nd/3rd trimester ban, if not out an out right ban.
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