In 2012 Obama won 10 of Kentucky's 11 largest cities

[Bandit3 the Worker]

In Kentucky, Obama won 10 of the state's 11 biggest cities. In fact, he won each of the 7 largest cities.

Yet Romney gets all 8 electoral votes.

Is that fair?

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I think this has become an issue of taxation without representation.

The larger cities are paying most of the taxes, but the outlying areas are getting most of the benefits. At the same time, the outlying areas are effectively controlling all of a state's electoral votes.

I'm sure you can find the same scam in other states. I bet Obama carried each of Indiana's 7 largest cities, even though Romney got all the electoral votes.

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In Kentucky, Obama won 10 of the state's 11 biggest cities. In fact, he won each of the 7 largest cities.

Yet Romney gets all 8 electoral votes.

Is that fair?

I Oregon, Romney won 26 of 36 counties.

yet Obama got all 7 electoral votes.

Is that fair?

The ones Romney won generally don't have many people.

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Is this an attempt to flip around that sick "but democracy isn't really fair because big citiezzz!!!!" conservative talking point?

Yes. They've asked for it.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Are you sure Obama won Bowling Green?

I'm pretty sure he won the city.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Bill Brady won 98 out of 102 counties in Illinois and still lost. Is that also unfair?

The GOP reaps what it sows.

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But Obama surely won all one vote in New America right?  Isn't that what counts?

Don't be so sure, since Jill Stein was on the ballot.

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Baltimore bosses this entire state around.

Well, maybe it needs to.

Boone and Jackson counties boss the entire state of Kentucky around, so fair is fair.

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NB If I thought the OP was having a joke I wouldn't say this. But it seems plain it's no joke

The cities being denied fair representation is no joke. This is an issue of taxation without representation.

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BTW - Obama won Covington?

Yes and it wasn't even close.

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As a Kentuckian who has spent quite some time in Louisville as well as the rural areas in Northern Kentucky, I don't understand Bandit's claims that Kentucky would be an Atlas Red state if it wasn't for "voter fraud" or whatever.  Outside of Louisville liberals are a small minority, albeit a very vocal one.  And even in Louisville you'll find a sizable number of conservatives.  Most people outside of Jefferson County (Louisville) are conservatives or moderates.  In Oldham County, which borders Jefferson County, two thirds of voters voted for Romney.  Obama didn't even win 55% of the vote in Jefferson County, which was his best county in the state (the other 3 counties he won he won with less than 50% of the vote).   In a Republican landslide, I would not be surprised to see every county in the state go Atlas Blue.

Oldham County doesn't have nearly as many people as Jefferson County.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

I got the point from the get-go.

But here's what does bother me about the urban/rural voting debate: Democrats saying "the cities are where the population is!" Not necessarily.....it's just that cities vote much more lopsidedly for Democrats than rural areas do for Republicans. Obama got 85% of the vote in Philadelphia...I don't see anywhere in PA where Romney got anything close to that percentage. Or what if Obama had only won Philly with 60 or 65% of the vote?

So yeah, I'm all for democracy, but would Democrats stop trying to fool people about the reason they win states while losing more land area?

The city of Cincinnati was heavily for Obama - maybe 75% or so. But there are multiple precincts in Hamilton County where Romney topped 80%, and there's one where he even got 100%.

Louisville was strongly for Obama, but there's precincts in Kentucky where Romney topped 80%.

An acre or a parcel of land doesn't vote, but a person does.

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Precincts aren't counties or cities though. Is there a COUNTY in PA or OH where Romney got 75% or more of the vote?

In Ohio, Romney topped 75% in Holmes and Mercer counties.

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And there's actually some counties in southern Kentucky where Romney well exceeded 80%.

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I don't get this thread.

Cities are more liberal, so they vote for Obama (shocking!). But in a presidential election, the state's total (unless you live in Maine or Nebraska) is all that matters for the Electoral Votes. Obama was crushed by more than 20 points in this state by Romney - that's why he gets no electoral votes. If you don't agree with the EC system, that's something for another day.

BTW, what were the results of Lexington City? Out of curiosity.

Obama won Lexington, despite it being a consolidated city-county.