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Question: Who is the best scriptwriter?
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« on: March 18, 2013, 11:20:47 AM »

If I had to rank them:

Tarantino
Dunham
Shakespeare

Tarantino is the best because he keeps attention and isn't predictable without going into some absurd over the wall things like Dunham can. But Dunham is also clearly better than Shakespeare because she is never boring and usually quite funny.
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2013, 11:25:32 AM »

When will you post another poll? In next minute or two?
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2013, 11:34:57 AM »

Give it up BRTD.
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2013, 01:55:32 PM »

'Going into some absurd over the wall things' is actually the best possible ten-word-or-less description of most of Tarantino's movies, BRTD, as well as at least half of Shakespeare's comedies and a few of the tragedies.
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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2013, 02:20:47 PM »

Tarantino > Dunham > Shakespeare <---overrated
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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2013, 02:46:14 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2013, 02:49:14 PM »

Girls is an objectively terrible show. Tarantino is great, but I doubt he'll be remembered universally in 500 years.
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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2013, 03:02:08 PM »

Shakespeare's works have been remembered centuries after his death, and not just a few of them. BRTD insists that he's boring, but considering he was successful in a day when if you made a boring play the audience would actually throw rotten vegetables at the stage he doesn't have much of a case. As for funny, the tragedies and dramas are of course not going to be funny, but he did a number of comedies as well. I remember seeing The Taming of the Shrew in middle school and it was hilarious. I honestly doubt BRTD has even seen more than a couple of Shakespeare's works, so I don't know why he thinks he's in a position to judge.

Tarantino makes good stuff, but aside from a few key works I doubt most of it will be remembered in the long term.

I hadn't heard of Dunham before now and haven't seen anything she's done, so I can't comment on her. I doubt she'll be remembered at all.
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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2013, 03:09:01 PM »

I like Dunham and Shakespeare, not so much Tarantino.

Did I just directly engage with the premise of this thread?
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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2013, 03:13:31 PM »

Oh, dear.
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« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2013, 03:31:35 PM »
« Edited: March 18, 2013, 03:34:59 PM by Kalwejt »

Shakespeare's works have been remembered centuries after his death, and not just a few of them. BRTD insists that he's boring, but considering he was successful in a day when if you made a boring play the audience would actually throw rotten vegetables at the stage he doesn't have much of a case. As for funny, the tragedies and dramas are of course not going to be funny, but he did a number of comedies as well. I remember seeing The Taming of the Shrew in middle school and it was hilarious. I honestly doubt BRTD has even seen more than a couple of Shakespeare's works, so I don't know why he thinks he's in a position to judge.

Tarantino makes good stuff, but aside from a few key works I doubt most of it will be remembered in the long term.

I hadn't heard of Dunham before now and haven't seen anything she's done, so I can't comment on her. I doubt she'll be remembered at all.

Dibble sums it very well. I'd like to add Shakespeare lasting influence on English, something almost nobody can compete with.

Also, we're talking about a man who lived and worked five centuries ago. You can't discuss him in context with modern art. If he were alive now, it's possible his methods would be diffrent, reflecting the current time. Same with Quentin, he couldn't make Pulp Fiction in Tudor England.

It's just as dumb as comparing political positions of Barack Obama and Charlemange.
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« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2013, 03:42:52 PM »

Don't get me wrong, I respect Shakespeare's contributions to the English language and no doubt accept that he is the undisputed king of literature, but his works are simply not for me and I don't find much enjoyment in reading them.
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« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2013, 05:33:38 PM »

Don't get me wrong, I respect Shakespeare's contributions to the English language and no doubt accept that he is the undisputed king of literature, but his works are simply not for me and I don't find much enjoyment in reading them.

He was a playwright. His primary works were really meant to be watched, not read. Imagine reading the script to Pulp Fiction - how many of the scenes would have the same dramatic impact in written format?
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« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2013, 05:36:27 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2013, 05:51:43 PM »

Don't get me wrong, I respect Shakespeare's contributions to the English language and no doubt accept that he is the undisputed king of literature, but his works are simply not for me and I don't find much enjoyment in reading them.

He was a playwright. His primary works were really meant to be watched, not read. Imagine reading the script to Pulp Fiction - how many of the scenes would have the same dramatic impact in written format?

Fair enough point.

Does Baz Luhrmann's '96 version of Romeo and Juliet suffice? Cuz I enjoyed that one.
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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2013, 05:55:58 PM »

Don't get me wrong, I respect Shakespeare's contributions to the English language and no doubt accept that he is the undisputed king of literature, but his works are simply not for me and I don't find much enjoyment in reading them.

He was a playwright. His primary works were really meant to be watched, not read. Imagine reading the script to Pulp Fiction - how many of the scenes would have the same dramatic impact in written format?

Fair enough point.

Does Baz Luhrmann's '96 version of Romeo and Juliet suffice? Cuz I enjoyed that one.

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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2013, 06:10:02 PM »

Tarantino, although I am not very familiar with him. Shakespeare is a tl;dr with lots of boring jargon I could care less about. Dunham has proven to be mediocre.
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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2013, 11:05:32 PM »

A big reason Shakespeare comes across as boring is that it has often been performed so boringly.  I've been watching the excellent Shakespeare Uncovered series (which you can watch here). The Shakespeare's Globe performances they excerpt on there are very expressive as opposed to some of the more staid recitations.
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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2013, 11:06:40 PM »

The Obvious Answer.
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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2013, 02:35:20 AM »

It's threads like these that make me wish the "No rules" rule applied to all Forum Community threads instead of just the Update thread...
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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2013, 05:50:26 AM »

A big reason Shakespeare comes across as boring is that it has often been performed so boringly.

I think very few people can understand the language today.  Its rather like listening to people from the North of England talking - you get some very rough idea what is going on, but it isn't fun after about five minutes.
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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2013, 07:47:28 AM »

I pretty much agree with Dibble.  I've never heard of Lena Dunham, and I generally like Tarantino's work (except for Inglorious Basterds), but Shakespeare's too revolutionary to dismiss.  I'd even say that without him, we probably wouldn't have all the great screenwriters we do today.  Though I know you won't agree with that sentiment, BRTD.
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« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2013, 10:15:32 AM »

I guess BRTD's Community College's teachers must have really, really loathed him.
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« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2013, 11:32:05 AM »

I guess BRTD's Community College's teachers must have really, really loathed him.

I went to state college, not community, and I didn't take any theater classes so Shakespeare never came up. If you're thinking what I said about Plato just about everyone in the class agreed with me since no one liked the idea of being ruled by "Philosopher Kings".
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« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2013, 12:47:21 PM »

It's threads like these that make me wish the "No rules" rule applied to all Forum Community threads instead of just the Update thread...

Can I give permission to enact such a rule in this thread?
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